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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #90 on: May 16, 2008, 03:44:05 PM »
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #91 on: May 16, 2008, 03:52:11 PM »
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APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued

It is already known that we try to reprint the English Amiga Guru Book by Ralph Babel.
Nevertheless some Amiga users needed to put some pirated copies of the book online.

That's why the Amiga Future project AGG which should be financed through the reprint has also been
discontinued.

Original statement by Ralph Babel:

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I couldn't find an email address for him, so maybe someone can get this to him?

Dear Mr. Babel,

If the concerns about a pirated version of the previous book due to its lack of current availability, are the only reason for canceling the re-print, then I would humbly recommend offering a pre-sales offering. I would do this through the active Amiga forums with the understanding that unless X number of books are pre-ordered the re-print won't occur.

I think the publisher will be surprised by the results in a very happy way. Most of remaining Amiga community users that I know, typically only pirate when they can't get the product through another reasonable source.

Please do not let one torrent stop the publishing of this book. If the publishers require a guarantee, then a pre-order would benefit everyone. I would think that the updated content alone would be enough to interest anyone.

I tell you what, I don't really need the book but I will buy a copy to support it's re-publish if you offer it as a pre-order count me in.

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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #92 on: May 16, 2008, 03:56:12 PM »
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #93 on: May 16, 2008, 04:24:38 PM »
its 2008 and everything is going to be pirated nothing anyone can do about that. just stand up take it like a man and take pre-orders, and if there is enough interest print the damn book....

now get over it!....
 

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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #94 on: May 16, 2008, 04:25:35 PM »
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #95 on: May 16, 2008, 05:00:00 PM »
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #96 on: May 16, 2008, 05:26:32 PM »
I can fully understand why Mr. Babel wouldn't want to continue. It's horrible to see all your hard work put online for free, it's happened to me before now.

However, just because one idiot wants to put it online doesn't mean anything..... just because it's available for free instead of giving money to the author doesn't mean everyone's going to do that. In fact, I would say that practically everybody who has enough of an interest to pay for this book appreciates that they need to buy it to support the author. The people who torrent it wouldn't want to buy it anyway.

I think this would probably affect his sales by about 5%-10%, that's all.  I do say that a pre-order system is a good idea, though.... certainly much better than punishing an entire community because of one ignorant fool.
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #97 on: May 16, 2008, 05:36:51 PM »
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I think this would probably affect his sales by about 5%-10%, that's all.  I do say that a pre-order system is a good idea, though.... certainly much better than punishing an entire community because of one ignorant fool.


I think that the effect would be even less than that, particularly if it's made very clear that the new book has been updated. Most people using the torrent instead of buying the actual book would probably not buy the book anyway. If the price is the same as for the German version, then it's pretty affordable. Printing the PDF would probably cost as much (or even more, depending on the printer).

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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #98 on: May 16, 2008, 06:26:37 PM »
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 I will gladly pay Ralph extra $ for a searchble (PW prot) PDF also. Thanx all!
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
« Reply #99 on: May 16, 2008, 06:29:26 PM »
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
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Re: New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation
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