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keyrah
« on: February 21, 2008, 03:23:53 PM »
does anyone use a keyrah for a a1200 on this forum?
i wanted to ask if u still can use the amiga when u intalled it

i want to have a cleandesk without pc keyboard so i was thinking of a keyrah

but then my a1200 should be still 100% working
a1200 blizzard 68030@50mhz/128mb/slimlinecdrom/os3.9
1x MINIMIG...Arm+mem upgrade---build 3
2x a500 1mb internal+2mb in a supraram kick 1.3
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Re: keyrah
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 03:53:33 PM »
You can't.


(Well, assuming your A1200 has USB and you use some USB switcher, then in theory. It wouldn't work in games etc though)
 

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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 03:56:40 PM »
Yeah the keyrah is basically meant to be used in cases that are left over from tower conversions, etc.. The A1200 keyboard can't be connected to a keyrah and an Amiga at the same time,

The only option is indeed to use a USB KVM and a USB controller on the Amiga, so workbench only.
 

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Re: keyrah
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 04:00:12 PM »
darng...would be nice to have it that way
a1200 blizzard 68030@50mhz/128mb/slimlinecdrom/os3.9
1x MINIMIG...Arm+mem upgrade---build 3
2x a500 1mb internal+2mb in a supraram kick 1.3
c64_1541 with z80 processor
c64 c aldi model+1541 II
3x vic-20_vic1541
1541 III by j.derogee
 

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Re: keyrah
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 04:12:33 PM »
An alternative would be to not use the Amiga keyboard. Get a PS2 keyboard adapter for your Amiga so you can use a PS2 keyboard with it. Then use a PS2 switchbox so you can use the same keyboard with either computer.

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Re: keyrah
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 04:19:05 PM »
yeah buti just wanted to get rid of the peecee keyboard

i love the touch of the a1200 board
a1200 blizzard 68030@50mhz/128mb/slimlinecdrom/os3.9
1x MINIMIG...Arm+mem upgrade---build 3
2x a500 1mb internal+2mb in a supraram kick 1.3
c64_1541 with z80 processor
c64 c aldi model+1541 II
3x vic-20_vic1541
1541 III by j.derogee
 

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Re: keyrah
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2008, 04:37:21 PM »
I have one which (as Jope mentioned) I used to adapt the case left over from towering my A1200.  It works ok, but I only use it with WinUAE.

I have an 8 bit version too which I was going to use with C64 emulation on my PC, but since I've bought a real C128 then I haven't bothered doing anything with it.

It's easy enough to fit and if you keep the pieces of the A1200 then it would be easy enough to put them back into the case at a later date.
A2000, A3000, 2 x A1200T, A1200, A4000Tower & Mediator, CD32, VIC-20, C64, C128, C128D, PET 8032, Minimig & ARM, C-One, FPGA Arcade... and AmigaOne X1000.
 

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Re: keyrah
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2008, 04:42:51 PM »
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amazing wrote:
yeah buti just wanted to get rid of the peecee keyboard

i love the touch of the a1200 board

Well ok.

A1200 Keyboard
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Keyrah
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USB->PS2 adapter
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PS2 Switchbox -> PC PS2 port
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Amiga PS2 Keyboard adapter
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Amiga

No idea if that would actually work though.

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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2008, 06:01:13 PM »
@motorollin

exactly my thoughts...it might work.


@amazing

if the above doesnt work, perhaps you can get one of those EZ-PC? PS2 adaptors for the A1200 and use a PC keyboard on your A1200 and somehow mount it inplace of the A1200's original keyboard. Once you do that you can split it with a KVM switch or something and walla! :-)

anything is possible if you put your mind to the task.
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2008, 06:05:48 PM »
The usb -> ps2 adapter would need to be something you coded together yourself (with a microcontroller), as the Keyrah cannot speak PS2, only USB.

Most of those small USB -> PS2 adapters are just connector adapters and the chip inside the keyboard or mouse knows to switch to ps2 mode.
 

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Re: keyrah
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2008, 06:20:36 PM »
mm u guys got my mind cooking...

a1200 blizzard 68030@50mhz/128mb/slimlinecdrom/os3.9
1x MINIMIG...Arm+mem upgrade---build 3
2x a500 1mb internal+2mb in a supraram kick 1.3
c64_1541 with z80 processor
c64 c aldi model+1541 II
3x vic-20_vic1541
1541 III by j.derogee
 

Offline Rob

Re: keyrah
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2008, 07:59:26 PM »
@Amazing

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yeah buti just wanted to get rid of the peecee keyboard

i love the touch of the a1200 board


The A1200 keyboard is a mitsumi model and if you can source an AT model from around 1997 (when I bought mine) you can even swap the Amiga keys for the windows ones.

Sadly when i got a PS2 model for my Amiga One in 2003, Mitsumi had changed the design of the keycaps.  It's still a nice keyboard though and I'd rather use it to type on than an A1200 wedge.
 

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Re: keyrah
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2008, 08:48:22 PM »
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Jope wrote:
The usb -> ps2 adapter would need to be something you coded together yourself (with a microcontroller), as the Keyrah cannot speak PS2, only USB.

Most of those small USB -> PS2 adapters are just connector adapters and the chip inside the keyboard or mouse knows to switch to ps2 mode.

Yes you are right, the small ones which just adapt the connector won't work in a PS2 port if the keyboard (or Keyrah in this case) is outputting USB data instead of PS2. But you can get intelligent USB to PS2 adapters which actually convert a USB keyboard to PS2.

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20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
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Offline Jope

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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2008, 09:53:56 PM »
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But you can get intelligent USB to PS2 adapters which actually convert a USB keyboard to PS2.


Or is it the other way around after all? I own two different ps2->usb adapters to be able to use my beloved old keytronics on modern usb only pcs..

Please link me to an intelligent adapter that translates usb keyboards to ps2 sockets. I have yet to see one live or in pictures.