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Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« on: January 19, 2008, 08:30:56 AM »
Why is Morphos seen by many as a very valid Amiga alternative? Ironically Morphos is in the exact opposite situation of OS4 - You can buy OS4, but no hardware for it to run on, and you can buy an Efika, but there is no Morphos version out (yet) for it.

So what do you guys think - is Morphos a real alternative to the 'next-gen Amiga OS' or its just a marketing ploy to keep Amiga users interested in Genesi stuff?


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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2008, 08:36:13 AM »
Not only it is a real alternative to Amigaos, it is also the only alternative, at least till Aros shapes up to be something usefull.
 

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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2008, 08:40:20 AM »
I try to pretend it doesn't exist.
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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2008, 09:19:23 AM »
Can't see Morphos as much of an alternative as it suffers from the same problem as OS4, as you say.

AROS seems the best bet as getting the combo of software and hardware together is straightforward as the rest of the normal computer world.

No idea how good either of them are as I have nver tried either.
 

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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2008, 09:37:44 AM »
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I try to pretend it doesn't exist.

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No idea how good either of them are as I have nver tried either.


To turn your argument around, this tells everything about why Hyperion's OS is seen by everyone as the next AmigaOS.

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Why is Morphos seen by many as a very valid Amiga alternative?


As it is faster, more mature, more compatible, more advanced and more robust than AmigaOS4?

Fact is, it's not AmigaOS. That's why it is an alternative.
 

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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2008, 09:46:00 AM »
Just wondering... is software released for OS4 usually ported to MorphOS and vice versa?

I understand that Amiga 680x0 stuff runs on both systems via JITS emulation.

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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2008, 09:57:01 AM »
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I understand that Amiga 680x0 stuff runs on both systems via JITS emulation.


Correct.

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Just wondering... is software released for OS4 usually ported to MorphOS and vice versa?


MorphOS, just as it has for PowerUP/WarpOS and Warp3D, has also a wrapper for OS4 programs called OS4emu.

It's not perfect, so not every program will work, but there is quite a range.
 

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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2008, 10:05:09 AM »
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No idea how good either of them are as I have nver tried either.



To turn your argument around, this tells everything about why Hyperion's OS is seen by everyone as the next AmigaOS.


Didn't understand this.
Just got up so am probably being a bit thick.
What exactly did you mean?

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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2008, 10:52:13 AM »
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Why is Morphos seen by many as a very valid Amiga alternative?

Because it's development was started by Amiga enthusiasts at a time where Amiga Inc. stated there will be no new AOS.
It runs Amiga 3.x software (if it does not hit the Hardware) and feels and works like Amiga OS. At least if you normally use programs that use a MUI GUI.
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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2008, 10:53:03 AM »
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Didn't understand this.
Just got up so am probably being a bit thick.
What exactly did you mean?


It's just a partial quote :)

I referred to ignorance regarding alternatives. Which renders for most OS4 the one and only.
 

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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2008, 10:55:59 AM »
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What exactly did you mean?


Hem, I think he meant most amiga-users actually neither tried an alternative, nor desired to do this anyway, so they can't understand how much those 'alternatives' are good and tied to the original good old AmigaOS spirit.

And, I can add, sometimes they prefer reiterating the same objections forever, independetly from the reality. For istance, I read here that AROS is still "useless" while I have it installed on a PC I can actually use for coding, reading emails, chat with IRC, play MP3s, MPEGs and AVIs, paint something with Lunapaint and, hopefully soon, browse the Internet with Traveller. Which is not so much, but it's pretty more than "useless" and fairly promising for the future. In order to show what's exactly the point reached by AROS in the latest weeks, I've just released a new beta version of my VmwAROS distribution, www.vmwaros.org. Sorry you need a fluent PC with at least free VMware Player or Served installed on to test it by yourself.

Some months ago I saw MorphOS running on a Peg and it was quite good. However I'm not a big fan just for the same reason I'm not so fond of AOS4 either: they are old-age ideas sold to you as like as they were revolutionary products. And the day you have to pick up your money and give 'em to anyone, you like the idea they will come back someway by using the product you're buying, and this is not the case for AOS4 and MorphOS. That's the main motivation why I think Amiga should naturally go for a completely Open Source way, and AROS is the only one. I don't spend money on it (well, not quite exact: I've spent some money on bounties, but I've quit drinking beers in pubs after marriage ^__^), so anything I do with it, even only amusing myself, is well accepted.

In the end, I see AROS, MorphOS and AmigaOS4 as three faces of the same concept, so I prefer looking for what unites them, instead of what divides.

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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2008, 11:00:20 AM »
Ah, I'm with you now.
Yes, that does seem to be some peoples attitude.
I wonder what they will do if Hyperion lose and Amiga Inc just dumps OS4.

Although this could also be the fate of Morphos and AROS.
I assume nobody is making a great deal of money out of any of the above and potentially all three could bite the dust.

 

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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2008, 11:43:39 AM »
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I assume nobody is making a great deal of money out of any of the above and potentially all three could bite the dust.


That's a very valid fear. Luckily(?) Amiga and the alternatives tend to go on forever in zombi mode without fuel :-)

There's very little money in either AROS, MorphOS or OS4. Yet all three is showing definite life signs.
 

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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2008, 11:57:32 AM »
MorphOS was the _only_ alternative for "new AmigaOS" running at PPC hardware at the time. Long before OS4 was announced and any "split" had happened. And it all started with BPPC/CSPPC without Genesi stuff you talk about :) Check late 90's advertisements from Amiga magazines... I remember how there were adds of Elbox SharkPPC running with MorphOS etc ;) It is just later when MorphOS users suddenly became "traitor", "evil" or similar among the certain name followers.
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Re: Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2008, 02:12:27 PM »
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It is just later when MorphOS users suddenly became "traitor", "evil" or similar among the certain name followers.


I've always that whole attitude was just incredibly silly. I've never used MorphOS and dont know the whole "politics" behind everything (And dont care).

If It ran on the Efika or Mac Mini I would be a new user. The same goes for OS4