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Amiga osX
« on: July 18, 2003, 09:26:24 AM »
If buy an Amiga one, can I run osX instead of linux until os4 becomes available??

(apologies if this is a daft question)
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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2003, 09:55:21 AM »
no, not on its own. Mac On Linux is possible.
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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2003, 10:55:44 AM »
The Mac On Linux packages and kernel modules are available here.
 

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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2003, 12:32:40 PM »
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no, not on its own. Mac On Linux is possible.


How does that impact on the hardwares performance??
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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2003, 12:46:56 PM »
Excuse my Ignorance, but I was under the impression that MOL was for MacOS9 software... can it support MacOSX software too?

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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2003, 01:30:19 PM »
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no, not on its own. Mac On Linux is possible.


Hmm, I don't see why it couldn't... At least with a hacked kernel. After all, if I recall correctly, OSX does run on top of MacOS just like LinuxPPC.
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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2003, 02:05:59 PM »
Hi Phoenix

What my fellow amiga.org members MEANT to say, was that running Mac OS X on an AmigaONE is illegal.  It violates the EULA of Mac OS X.

This is not a pirates discussion board.  The short answer is no, the only answer is No.
 

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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2003, 02:15:16 PM »
What?? How can that be a violation of EULA?? Apple got some sort of restriction saying you can't run OSX on a non-Apple product?

And what does this discussion have to do with piracy?
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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2003, 02:22:11 PM »
@bloodline

Both MacOS X 10.1 and 10.2 have been reported to work under Mac on Linux.
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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2003, 02:27:14 PM »
Apple's End User License Agreement specifically prohibits using Mac OS X on non-Apple hardware.

This is the agreement you agreed to when you installed Mac OS X, regardless of what country you live in.

Running unlicensed software is *piracy*  There is no other definition of piracy.

This may surprise some of you, but the vast majority of all software sold is not really a physical product...its a limited license.  

All of you who bought 'Mac OS X' bought nothing but a license to use Mac OS X on your Mac.  That's it.
Not a single one of you ever bought Mac OS X to run on your AmigaONE, because Apple will not sell you such a license and sold none of you such a license.

You are running un-licensed software.  Period.

And, I really don't care for the ridiculous excuses you make for your piracy.  If Wayne wants to turn this into a pirates discussion board...that's up to him.

But, I will tell you this, lets go down the roll call of people who want to support illegal activity.  Go ahead,  jump in this thread with your whole hearted support of piracy.  But later, when Amiga OS 4 is being pirated into oblivion, remember, you have nothing to say about it.
 

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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2003, 02:29:21 PM »
What Xeron, Peter Gordon meant to say, was that it's unsupported and illegal.

And, if Peter Gordon supports piracy of Mac OS X, then I'm sure he supports piracy of OS 4, as there is no moral difference in pirating things from one company or another.

 

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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2003, 02:44:49 PM »
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If buy an Amiga one, can I run osX instead of linux until os4 becomes available??

(apologies if this is a daft question)


Hi,
Yep Mac OS X works fine under MOL on both Teron and Pegasos boards.   I've had 10.2.6 for quite a while on my iMac G4 and its not as fast (obviously) but still very usable on Peg (around the same speed or faster than my old iMac G3-450).  

The EULA permits you to install on one "Apple-Branded" machine but its seriously not something Apple would enforce - people have been building their own Macs for years. (eg. http://www.macopz.com/buildamac/) and I have not heard of anyone getting into trouble over running MacOS on them.

So long as you actually bought the OS I can't see Apple being bothered.
 

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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2003, 02:47:11 PM »
If its a genuine cd with paperwork that is not piracy as for apple why should they tell you what you can run your software you have paid for on .Its like microsoft with the xbox its a stripped out pc and can run linux but if the users  all done it microsoft would lose loads of money due to hardware being sold for less than it cost to make ,they make the money back on the software so they lose out.If i have paid for something and own it i would do whatever i want with it .if it is a copy of the disc that is piracy. :-o
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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2003, 02:50:06 PM »
OK Lando...

you fall into the group of pirates who say 'you won't get caught'

Yep, its true.  Most people won't get caught who steal Mac OS X or Amiga OS 4.  I didn't say you would get caught, I said its illegal.

Now, the other thing...you said 'as long as you bought a copy'

re-read my earlier post, you can only buy a license to use Mac OS X on apple branded hardware.

Since no one here bought a license for Mac OS X on AmigaONE...no one has bought a license to run it on their AmigaONE....period.

Lando, if Apple wanted to write a license that said you can build Mac Clones, they could.  If they wanted to write a license that said you only have a license to use this product if you bought it!  They could.  

The license says you may use it only on Apple Branded hardware.  

It's absurdity for you to suggest apple's intentions...absolutely insane.  The license is a legal document, a very carefully crafted legal document...and that document represents apple's position on the subject...not your absurd speculations.
 

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Re: Amiga osX
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2003, 02:51:52 PM »
I should mention that I own three original OS X licences/CD sets (one that came with my iBook, one that came with my G4 iMac, and one boxed retail copy that I bought from the Apple Centre Manchester).  

When I bought it I was not asked if I owned a Mac, I was not asked if I would be running it on a Mac, they were quite happy to let me pay my £100 and walk out of the store with OS X.