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Any news on OS4 release date?
« on: July 17, 2003, 12:11:54 PM »
Any news on OS4 release date? I know that Ben Hermans speak about OS4 in the AmigaOS4 On Tour.... any news?

Someone know the "To Do List"?
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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2003, 01:04:33 PM »
No.

To do list:

- Finish off coding OS4 and test!
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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2003, 02:26:32 PM »
mmmmmmm :-(

i listen some bad non official news..... Please someone tell me that OS4 isn't far away
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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2003, 02:32:59 PM »
@ikir

I sincerely wish we could tell you when AmigaOS4 would be released.  Unfortunately the only person who can even guess that would be Ben Hermans, and he's not saying (right Ben?).

My most optimistic guess would be that we will see OS4 for the accellerated Classic Amiga around late September, maybe October, maybe even November timeframe, and OS4 for the AmigaOne some time about 3 to 6 months after that.

Please keep in mind that's simply my guess however.  Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2003, 02:35:44 PM »
Thanks Wayne, i only wanted to know a prevision like yours.

I found an interviw on mp3 with Ben Hermens, but i don't understand it. I think it doesn't contains any great news right?

ok thanks :)
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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2003, 02:36:48 PM »
The release for OS4 - CSPPC has been hinted towards the end of summer (again :-) and the A1 version some time after that... hmmm... unless... unforseen... christmas ?

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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2003, 02:38:32 PM »
If you look at the presentation from the French demonstration, then you can see what's done.  The feature list is complete, apart from some Exec stuff (nonessensial), a PPC native media player, native browser, 3D API and some localisation.  The rest is either in 68k or PPC.  It's not too far off :-)
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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2003, 02:39:42 PM »
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If you look at the presentation from the French demonstration, then you can see what's done.  The feature list is complete, apart from some Exec stuff (nonessensial), a PPC native media player, native browser, 3D API and some localisation.  The rest is either in 68k or PPC.  It's not too far off :-)


plus the porting of the SNAP drivers...

yeah it is taking awhile but hang in there  :-) .
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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2003, 02:42:17 PM »
@Step

"end of summer" is very vague.  Giving Ben the benefit of doubt, I said September (since they're still beta testing) which is only two months.

Despite his idea that porting it to the AmigaOne will be simple, I simply cannot agree with Ben's notion that AmigaOS for the A1 will be 100% complete and shipped less than 3 months after the accellerated Classic version.

There's all sorts of room for "playing with words" there, but I'm hoping that someone will finally be able to be honest about when it will be ready and shipped.
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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2003, 02:44:40 PM »
Cyberstorm version @ the end of summer? It would be nice. I plan to buy my A1 in september-october.

If the Blizzard PPC version will be released, i think it will be the last, with the Shark version (if it is Blizzard compatible).
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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2003, 02:54:09 PM »
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plus the porting of the SNAP drivers...


AFAIK they will only be on the A1 version.  Does anyone know how hard it would be to integrate them?
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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2003, 02:57:46 PM »
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AFAIK they will only be on the A1 version.  Does anyone know how hard it would be to integrate them?


IIRC it was said they would not be in OS4 first release but maybe OS4.1.
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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2003, 03:02:18 PM »
On the bright side, I guess it gives me more time to save some money.
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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2003, 03:04:22 PM »
@alx

Complete ???
Why did they show mostly 68k on static emu, instead
of PPC-native plus JIT ?

And anybody can only guess how long that will take to
finish (including those who are doing it  ;-) ).

I'm also quite sure that there was WOS-support on that
list sometime ago, but somehow the list has seemed to
get a bit shorter ....

I think Wayne is somewhere between realistic and
"a bit" optimistic here.
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Re: Any news on OS4 release date?
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2003, 03:07:19 PM »
@Kronos

When I said "Complete", I was quoting from the slides:

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Missing functions of OS4 to date compared to the "OS4 feature list 1.0"
Some non-essential functions of ExecSG (further detailed with § «  ExecSG » )
Modern native PPC media player (L. Torok is working on MooVid OS4)
Native browser
New API 3D (An OpenGL orientated NOVA specification is being worked at, possibility of a Warp3D wrapper is being studied)
Localization of all parts of the system (ATO; approx. 50% complete)

All of the other announced functions are complete, and in the course of being betatested on 68k or PPC


That, of course, does not mean that the entire OS is complete, and I'd probably agree with the more optimistic end of Wayne's estimation.
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