Any news on OS4 release date?

[itix]

WarpOS binary format is tricky.

Just bad design.

Do you remember the "runelf" program ? The same should be possible with Wos.

Adding WOS support is not that simple really.

My personal thought is that I prefer spending time on working on something usefull than on things from the past !

But OS4 got PUP emulation, right? If so, better ditch WOS apps now and go for PUP versions.

>With all due repect, Don't you think WOS is a bit of a pointless thing to support.
>It was a nasty hack to allow PPC code to execute on a 68K based platform.
>
>I know there is the argument of "more software", but any WOS software worth having would be better supported by being
>nativly ported to AmigaOS. (often AmigaOS versions existed anyway, and these could be ported to OS4)

Well, some software just ain't going to be ported to OS4 native. Are the Wipeout guys still around to give us an OS4-native version of this game? Some might point to FusionPPC as something not likely to get ported, but in the state I bought it at I'd rather see a better quality product in this case, but I'm not sure the company that bought FusionPPC is still around anyway.  And I;m sure there are a couple other examples of things people still want to use that simply will not be able to be ported to OS4-native.

Is the number of these programs large? No. But if it can be done, it would be nice. Especialy with Hyperion's own games it would be convenient if the curent WarpOS versions would run while they are working on OS4 stuff, rather than we all wait for them to eventually get around to OS4-native updates of their games.

Without this support, we'll basically ONLY have 68K software usable to us at day one. If we have both 68K and WarpOS software usable on day one, that's a better situation for the users in general. Maybe not you in particular, but surely the larger number of happy persons is better than just you alone, from the vendor's point of view...

[Tomas]

I still think they should have waited with AmigaONE until os4 was ready to run on it. By the time OS4 is ready, the current AmigaONEs will be pretty much outdated.. If they waited, there would probably be better chipsets, faster cpus and such avaliable...

[downix]

@Tomas

Then they'd have been at a severe disadvantage against the Pegasos.  Heck, they still are.

[Stew]

"end of summer" is very vague. Giving Ben the benefit of doubt, I said September (since they're still beta testing) which is only two months.


__________________________________________  There is a wild card in all this. AI may go under taking OS4 with it. Hopefully this is not the case and Hyperion can complete the OS with them but that is far from certain.

Stew

[Atheist]

Let's face it.

They need to get it out sooner rather than later BUT, it HAS to be working very solidly, when it is released. So, we must wait.


AmigaOne!

[McNorris]

Yeah it's comeing along right after the second comeing.

You'll have better luck waiting on Jesus. Maybe he'll bring OS 4 with him.

 :-D  :-?  :-D

[Herewegoagain]

downix wrote:
@Tomas

Then they'd have been at a severe disadvantage against the Pegasos.  Heck, they still are.

Well, let's revisit this statement once OS4 is out... I think you will have a different answer then.

[ikir]

I only hope that i can play my version original version of Shogo on Amiga1 or SharkG4. I buy it last christams as a present for myself :-)  

[Johan Samuelsson]

For me WOS support in OS4 is VERY important!
As I am mostly using my Amiga for scene/demo related things and there are a lot of WOS demos out (around 60?) and most of them will nót get ported to OS4, as the authors will not have an AmigaOne or has left the Amiga scene already.

Most released WOS software will not get an OS4 port. :cry:  WOS support is important!

(The small utils might though, unrar, zip etc...)  

[Wilse]

You'll have better luck waiting on Jesus.

Nah, you missed him 2000 years ago.

Maybe he'll bring OS 4 with him.

Again, no.
It was NT he brought with him. ;-)

[Warface]

Well, some software just ain't going to be ported to OS4 native. Are the Wipeout guys still around to give us an OS4-native version of this game? Some might point to FusionPPC as something not likely to get ported, but in the state I bought it at I'd rather see a better quality product in this case, but I'm not sure the company that bought FusionPPC is still around anyway.  

FusionPPC is a "not that good expample". It is buggy, not to mention that it's extremely hardware dependant, it's unlikely to run on anything else than CyberStormPPC regardless of any WarpOS emulation. AFAIK

[ikir]

WOS support in not essential, but IMPORTANT. Not all WOS will have a patch to run under OS4 natively.

[dammy]

by cgutjahr on 2003/7/17 10:15:43

Ben Hermans stated several times that WOS supported will be part of OS4 - and I know that you read these statements.

If Ben said there would be, there is.  He's plainly stated he does not make empty promises.

Dammy

[bloodline]

dammy wrote:
He's plainly stated he does not make empty promises.

Dammy

Did he promise that? :lol:

[olegil]

Seriously, there's no need to "integrate" SNAP.

You write a driver for SNAP, then you configure SNAP for your card, and off you go. SNAP doesn't get integrated, it just gets called.