The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.

[takemehomegrandma]

lempkee wrote:
takemehomegrandma: , ermm did u see that i QUOTED ? , sounded like you didnt anyway ...

i just wrote what total amiga issue 15 on page 8 said , to relive some of the tension in here.

Yes, I know you were quoting. My answer was not directed to you in specific, but to "the quote". Sorry for the confusion, and thank you for the interesting quote! :-)

also , garry hare never was ceo, he was just planned to be , i guess thats why jim is in the seat now..

:-o :-o :-o :-o :-o

So this is confirmed now?!??

but then again it might be fud all of this, but i only wrote what i did ..because i saw that in the magazine (AND quoted)

Well, technically not FUD, since it's not directed *against* someone/something. More a like false rumour (perhaps even a deliberate lie) ...
;-)

[takemehomegrandma]

@ chris

BTW (off topic), what happened to AmigaOS 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.6, 3.7, 3.8? And will there be a 4.1 before 4.2? Will there be a 4.2 at all now when the functionality originally planned for that version is allready implemented in 4.0?

:-) ;-)  :-D

[Waccoon]

Wayne:  Things under Gateway's Amiga at least SEEMED to be moving forward which is much more than can be seen or demonstrated currently.

I believe Wayne was talking about Amiga Inc. only.  A lot of people believe Hyperion and Eyetech are doing all the work while Amiga Inc is basicly just a cardboard cutout...

...much like the MCC.   ;-)

[DaveP]

Err no lempkee and Billsey

It is to remind Indoro, the owner of merlancia, that he is pot, kettle and black as far as questioning others trustworthyness and reputation is concerned.

[Waccoon]

@TakeMeHomeToGrandma:  Ahh...  version numbers.  I really wish companies would treat these more seriously.  Amiga companies seem to do pretty well with this, though.

McEwen said himself he wanted to take the word "computer" out of the picture, entirely.  Sure.  I have a hard enough time figuring out compatibility problems with Windows products as it is.  Might as well try to delude ourselves into thinking a computer is much simpler than it really is.

I for one, continue to think that computers are tools.  Very fun tools, but tools nonetheless.  They should always be treated as such, and that includes proper training and not hiding necessary information from users.

You're looking for version numbers?  I'm trying to find out what happened to manuals!   :-D

[alx]

BTW (off topic), what happened to AmigaOS 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.6, 3.7, 3.8?

Perhaps after such a long gap between 3.1 and 3.5, it was thought nessecery to increase the version number a bit more?  As for 3.9, IMO it hints that it is the last of the 3.x series - either there wouldn't be anything else, or what would come after would be very different.

Looking at the OS4 presentation slides etc, I think that there will be a 4.1 (although perhaps it will just be for beta testers? :-? )

[downix]

takemehomegrandma wrote:
@ chris

BTW (off topic), what happened to AmigaOS 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.6, 3.7, 3.8? And will there be a 4.1 before 4.2? Will there be a 4.2 at all now when the functionality originally planned for that version is allready implemented in 4.0?

:-) ;-)  :-D

AmigaOS 3.2 sits where it always has, on the motherboard of the Walker prototypes.

[uncharted]

downix wrote:
Ya know, I read this rumor and went "this doesn't help them one bit, as McEwan and Fleecy essentially ran the show with Collas there anyways, so no difference."

Fleecy was sacked before Collas took over.  I had the impression that is was Dr. Allen and the guy from Sun were running the show technology wise. And that it was outside pressure that directed the whole linux instead of QNX debacle.

[DamienMcKenna]

z5 wrote:
Hyperion and Eyetech have done more than Gateway, Escom and all together.

Escom had several plans underway under the guise of Amiga International, but the parent company went under dragging the lofty plans along with it.

Damien

[amigamad]

The only problem with that was they were selling A1200s that were next to useless by that time - unless, of course, you spent a fortune upgrading them. The Amiga Surfer pack was great - if you liked watching web pages take 4 minutes to load on a flickery interlace screen on a very dodgy version of Voyager.

Maybe so but they sold thousands of of the things and cleared some of the large stockpile.

[MarkTime]

I have been following this scene for quite a number of years now....and Commodore going under was enough for a lot of people to leave...and Escom going under, a 2nd exodus...and Gateways withdrawal, a 3rd....and quite frankly, at this point, everyone left isn't here cause we believe in the shell of a corporate parent holding the Amiga name anymore.

Amiga, Inc. does have a fanbase.  But that fanbase is not based on corporate performance.   So, imho, even their fans aren't basing their approval on any expectations which they could then be disillusioned of.

So...long story short, Amiga, Inc. isn't very relevant, that makes their CEO a bit irrelevant as well.

Pity the poor true Amiga, Inc. fan.

Here is what they have to hope for:

a product is completed.
 --most projects are either cancelled or just in development now for years.

when a project does make it into production, it may be cancelled after its successful completion...re: amithlon

if the product is completed and it is not cancelled after being finished, it may not sell.

Amiga, Inc. has more than the usual difficulties and they have one other, fairly unique difficulty...even when the product, is completed, not cancelled, and sells well....they may not collect any money on it at all...like OS 3.9.

I don't think the Collas rumor is true, but the only people left here, have no expectations....one groups is a fanbase no matter what, and the other doesn't care about corporate anymore...and in a way that makes both groups the same, in that Amiga, Inc. actual CEO isn't very relevant to our opinions or course.

[smithy]

I think Jim Collas actually fought for reviving Amiga. That's the way I remember it, anyway.

That's different to how I remember it... I remember they wanted to turn AmigaOS into a rebadged version of QNX, but later changed their minds, and decided it would be a Linux distro instead.

Doesn't Linux already run the AmigaOne?  Imagine the scene - he could return and proclaim the 'new' 'Amiga' immediately... oh, he'd be a hero.

[CodeSmith]

With all this talk of a new CEO (and I must say, the way I remember things was Collas being really excited, the project being cancelled and him leaving Gateway immediately afterwards) I was wondering... say that Collas did take over, paid all the bills and shipped all the T-shirts.  Would "the other side" still bash Amiga, Inc anyway (coming up with lots of other stuff to be righteously indignant about)?

[Crispy_Beef]

smithy wrote:

That's different to how I remember it... I remember they wanted to turn AmigaOS into a rebadged version of QNX, but later changed their minds, and decided it would be a Linux distro instead.

Doesn't Linux already run the AmigaOne?  Imagine the scene - he could return and proclaim the 'new' 'Amiga' immediately... oh, he'd be a hero.

Nah, the new version of AmigaOS back then was to be based on the QNX micro kernel.  Basically it would have been the equivalent to ExecSG for AOS4.  This was then switched to using a Linux kernel for some reason (which I can't remember).

Personally I would have preferred the QNX route, but now we have ExecSG it's all rather moot.

[KennyR]

This was then switched to using a Linux kernel for some reason (which I can't remember).

Linux had better hardware support.

[CodeSmith]

The funniest thing about the whole Linux thing is that if we'd gone that route, the Amiga would have had (essentially) MacOS X before the Mac did...