AmigaOS 4.0 - what new appz are coming for it?

[Stimpzilla]

@Atheist

Although quite a few of the programs you quote there have Modern Equivalents ;-) , you do highlight one area that hasn't really been covered on this thread yet, and that's programming.

Sure, we've been told GCC will be the compiler of choice for writing applications for OS4, and Arexx is being included, but AMOS and the like certainly helped people ease into programming, without going from bare-minimum amateur straight onto C-based full-on application programming.

@All

Apart from GCC and Arexx, what else do people feel is needed / could be useful on the programming front?

Stimpy
=====

[Olle]

@stimpzilla

I would like the StormC 4 package to be ppc-native.

It is actually very good. I use it all day long and compiling a project with around 64 files, different folders and customised paths, it's much easier with a IDE than a plain console GCC..

Unfortunately i think haage & partner is getting more and more uninterested of the amiga business. (hopefully not)

The few things i would like added to it, is a class-handler, and the VisualStudio class helper.

That would be a great addition, also supporting a right-click and get a popup-menu where you could trace the location of a class / structure / variable..

Oh well, i'm just dreaming...     :-)

Got carried away..

btw, where is ren?   :-D

[Staticman]

Stimpzilla wrote:

Sure, we've been told GCC will be the compiler of choice for writing applications for OS4, and Arexx is being included


Stimpy
=====

this is not entirely true. ARexx has been replaced by a more powerful script compiler by the name of SHEEP

[Stimpzilla]

@Staticman

SHEEP could be interesting if it's intended as an Arexx scripting language-type replacement, although I had a hazy idea it was planned for later on eg. 4.1 or 4.2.

@ Olle

I know what you mean. Although I haven't done much with StormC (I think it's v3 I have, the one included with the OS3.5 DevCD, anyway), but I do like the fact that it's still one of the most up-to-date (relatively speaking, that is...) C Packages specifically for the Amiga, particularly with an IDE and stuff.

If H+P really do fade away, then something uptodate with an IDE for the Ami will be particularly good (no comments regarding commercial viability though...)

As for Ren, well, I'm the only one likely to be online, as he got so frustrated with Windows, he chucked his PC out the glass variety ;-)  :-D

Stimpy
=====

[Karlos]

Olle wrote:
@stimpzilla

I would like the StormC 4 package to be ppc-native.

It is actually very good. I use it all day long and compiling a project with around 64 files, different folders and customised paths, it's much easier with a IDE than a plain console GCC..

Unfortunately i think haage & partner is getting more and more uninterested of the amiga business. (hopefully not)

The few things i would like added to it, is a class-handler, and the VisualStudio class helper.

That would be a great addition, also supporting a right-click and get a popup-menu where you could trace the location of a class / structure / variable..

Yeah. I really like Storms IDE but the codegenerator leaves much to be desired to be honest.
If youre into gcc, GoldEd is very nice as a front end...

[Cranched]

I'd like to see Dpaint with .anim to flash output. How about a newer version of Lightwave?

[vpamicue]

Well as far as Pagestream goes it has been mentioned but I think that it would run under emulation as well as any DTP would run native. I use PageStream with Amithlon now on a 1.1ghz Athalon System and it fly's. I acan only guese at what it would run like on a G4 system. But basicly Deron has said there would be little to gain running native so it is not a priority. Linux/Mac/Windows/Amiga3.9 versions come first but a port will be done (depending on ease of use of the code conversion/compilers to use and understand). :-)

[Stimpzilla]

Karlos wrote:

Yeah. I really like Storms IDE but the codegenerator leaves much to be desired to be honest.
If youre into gcc, GoldEd is very nice as a front end...

If GCC is to be The One then, perhaps all that's needed is to let people know that GoldEd makes a good front end. If it isn't already in there, include summat in the GoldEd installer to ask "Do you wish to configure GoldEd as a front end for GCC?". I dunno. I've never used GE  :-)

Stimpy
=====

-- edit --

WooHoo!!! 51 Posts! Me's graduated to Hobbyist!  :-D  :-D  :-D

[Kronos]

@Stimpy

GoldED-AIX even comes with GGC (and vbcc) on the CD.

Install it, answer the questions, and of you go.

GoldED is even used in the official MorphOS-SDK (und the name MorphED).

[Olle]

@stimpy , @karlos, @kronos

The top priority question for me then is this.

When using GoldEd, does it provide a way to keep all files in a window to quickly open and to be added into the project easily? , this is the most important reason why i use StormC atm..

Wasn't there a development of a generic IDE sometime? (my mind is slipping)

[Kronos]

@Olle

Depends on what you mean.

GoldED has a menuitem to create makefiles, but I never tried that.

When in C(++) mode, GED will list all *.c and *.cpp files in the same dir with the
one you are working on on the right side of the window.

This can be switched to *.h files and makefiles by small buttons.

Clicking on an item in those list will open the file in a new window.

AFAIK there is no easy way to add an file to a makefile, but GED offers lots of
nice helpers like automatik construction of "if()" and so on.

[Olle]

@kronos

Thanks for the info...   :-)

I'll just have to try it out.. . .