The real reason why Jim Collas left

[Reynolds]

Photos anywhere? ofcourse about the girls, not Collas

[redfox]

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[ltstanfo]

I'm here to second Tigger's post.  For those of us who were at the Amiga show, it was common knowledge within a week.  No secret, no joke.

Regards,
Ltstanfo

[TheMagicM]

oh please.. having sex with an employee constituted him getting fired and not imcompetence at his job?

[Tigger]

TheMagicM wrote:
oh please.. having sex with an employee constituted him getting fired and not imcompetence at his job?

First of all I dont think Collas was incompetant, and lets be serious we about fired our president for lying about having sex with an employee.  
      -Tig

[ltstanfo]

TheMagicM wrote:
oh please.. having sex with an employee constituted him getting fired and not imcompetence at his job?

Actually Collas was probably one of the few competant people at that time in the Gateway "Amiga" community (such as it was).  I remember him speaking to us in the developer session and actually making sense.  Were you there?

Sorry but Jim's demise was not for incompetance.  I'm not trying to speak for Wayne or drag him into this topic but he will confirm our comments as well.

Regards,
Ltstanfo

[TheMagicM]

i'd be surprised if it was for just messin around w/a woman.  Maybe Gateway was going to go in a different direction?  I dont necessarily think its incompetence I'd just be surprised if its for s3x.  lol

[ilgulamc]

Damn! I never heard about this before, this comes as a shock to me!

It looks like the real truth about Collas leaving the scene is comming out.

What about him fireing Fleecy? do anybody remember about that?

[swoslover]

I dont understand.

Wow he had sex with a woman he's a grown man ffs he can do what he wants, he's perfectly able to make his own mistakes.

ltstanfo wrote:
Sorry but Jim's demise was not for incompetence.  I'm not trying to speak for Wayne or drag him into this topic but he will confirm our comments as well.

I can confirm that it was a widely held rumor on the show floor when "it" happened.  The scuttlebutt (and remember, there were once those at Amiga that loved to talk and the Annex kids weren't too subtle either) was that Jim did the deed, and somehow it got back to Ted (maybe Jim's wife raising a ruckus), then the two got into a "professional disagreement" about what type of image this projects, for a married VP to be publicly diddling the help and Jim was "bought out" (effectively fired) and therein lies the end of Gateway's involvement with the Amiga.

Fact?  Dunno. I wasn't "there" (or I would have gotten pictures).  I will attest that it was widely accepted as fact at the time it happened.  Absolutely true.  Especially for those of us who attended the show and were close to AI's then-current staff.

Wayne

[dammy]

Wow he had sex with a woman he's a grown man ffs he can do what he wants, he's perfectly able to make his own mistakes.

Which would have lead to really juicey law suits against Gateway by her.  It would have probably been different if Collas didn't cop an attitude with his boss withe story being swept under the rug and paid her off.

Dammy

[ltstanfo]

swoslover wrote:
I dont understand.

Wow he had sex with a woman he's a grown man ffs he can do what he wants, he's perfectly able to make his own mistakes.

Yeah you don't understand (no disrespect to you intended).  You cannot do behavior that the company disapproves of or puts the company in a bad (public) light.  Ted (Gateway) has always fostered a "family atmosphere" in his company and such a scandal is simply not tolerated...especially for someone who is married and quite high up in his company.

Likewise, as someone else here has already posted, such activities invite legal actions and it's far easier to get rid of the problem than to (attempt to) fix the problem.

I am actually quite surprised that this story is returning.  It was common knowledge in the AMIGA community at the time of Collas's dismissal.  This was never a secret so how is it that so many here seem to not know anything about it?  Or is this the younger generation of Amigans just now catching up (those that did not get to attend the shows / were not around at the time)?

EDIT: HERE is a link to the ANNEX page.  If you scroll down on the news page, you will see a couple of links to the various shows / tours that ANNEX performed at.  There is a link to the Amiga 99 (Gateway Amiga Show) show that *MAY* have been the event in question.  It's been so long ago that I really don't remember (nearly 10 years).  As for which girl, again time has dimmed some memory cells but if you check the group photos page I want to think it was the redhead but I AM NOT SURE.


Regards,
Ltstanfo

[TheMagicM]

If it was the redhead or brunette.. HOW CAN YOU PASS THAT UP? LOLOLOL!!!!  

[Rob]

@ltstanfo

I am actually quite surprised that this story is returning. It was common knowledge in the AMIGA community at the time of Collas's dismissal. This was never a secret so how is it that so many here seem to not know anything about it? Or is this the younger generation of Amigans just now catching up (those that did not get to attend the shows / were not around at the time)?

You've got to remember that many users would not have had internet access at the time and were mainly only in contact with other users in their local area.

I knew many other Amiga users in my local area around 91-94, by 97 in knew only 4 or so people that still used an Amiga.  I didn't get my own internet connection until 99 and was the first of my friends to get internet access.
Prior to that our only source of information was from the magazines we bought, which also wanted to present a family image and so didn't publish such stories.

I think it should be easy to understand why so many people are unaware of this part of the Amiga's history.

[A1260]

http://www.perez.de/annex/idmlelia.htm

so it was the girl called "LELIA"..... ok now we know... anyone got a picture of Jim Collas wife, so we can compare?

[TheMagicM]

she's hawt