The real reason why Jim Collas left

[TheMagicM]

she's hawt

anyone got a picture of Jim Collas wife, so we can compare?

Not that this thread is a paragon of virtue, but that's just catty.

Wayne

[vk3heg]

Wayne wrote:

anyone got a picture of Jim Collas wife, so we can compare?

Not that this thread is a paragon of virtue, but that's just catty.

Wayne

Male Amiga users have always had a "thing" for "HOT" woman!

 :-D    :-o

[ilgulamc]

ltstanfo wrote:

I am actually quite surprised that this story is returning.  It was common knowledge in the AMIGA community at the time of Collas's dismissal.  This was never a secret so how is it that so many here seem to not know anything about it?  Or is this the younger generation of Amigans just now catching up (those that did not get to attend the shows / were not around at the time)?

I didn't know about this, even though I've been reading and writing on these forums daily at those times.. It is true that I never attended a show and probably that is the reason i didn't know about it.

I am quite sure that "truth" never came out on the forums before, and if I can tell you I am quite shocked about that too..

Well in France when something goes wrong they say "Cherchez la famme!" that translates as "Look for the woman, if something went wrong there must be a woman somewhere that has something to do about it..."

[swoslover]

dammy wrote:

Wow he had sex with a woman he's a grown man ffs he can do what he wants, he's perfectly able to make his own mistakes.

Which would have lead to really juicey law suits against Gateway by her.  It would have probably been different if Collas didn't cop an attitude with his boss withe story being swept under the rug and paid her off.

Dammy

But why can she start a law suit, she wasnt raped she entered into it willingly I am assuming.

[shoggoth]

ltstanfo wrote:

Yeah you don't understand (no disrespect to you intended).  You cannot do behavior that the company disapproves of or puts the company in a bad (public) light.  Ted (Gateway) has always fostered a "family atmosphere" in his company and such a scandal is simply not tolerated...especially for someone who is married and quite high up in his company.

In some cultures, there's a difference between your private life and your business life, and core family values have very little to do with work. That's how it works here (sweden) at least. I find it very difficult to understand why anyone would get fired for someting like that..

-- Peter

[dammy]

But why can she start a law suit, she wasnt raped she entered into it willingly I am assuming.

If they were both equals within the corp, it wouldn't be an issue.  When one is a highier level within the corp, then the other can say he/she felt if she didn't, she wouldn't get an advancement or some other job security issue.  That's sexual harassment and there are laws (US Title VII and typically state have their own laws for corps under 15 people) governing it which civil courts will address.  

I don't know how the EU is handling it, but it's a very serious issue in the US.

Dammy

[swoslover]

I cant believe some woman can be rewarded for being a slut.

I hope the uk doesnt become as litigation happy as the us.

[jj]

oh come on.  Thats a lame excuse to give for sleeping with somone.  I can understand how people think it will give them advancement but not that they will suffer if they dont.  most peple no what they are doing.

It just reminds me of te compenstation culture of the sates, which unfortunately is becoming more prevelant over here in the UK.

I get the impression that stupidty in rewarded in the USA

[shoggoth]

dammy wrote:

But why can she start a law suit, she wasnt raped she entered into it willingly I am assuming.

If they were both equals within the corp, it wouldn't be an issue.  When one is a highier level within the corp, then the other can say he/she felt if she didn't, she wouldn't get an advancement or some other job security issue.  That's sexual harassment and there are laws (US Title VII and typically state have their own laws for corps under 15 people) governing it which civil courts will address.  

I don't know how the EU is handling it, but it's a very serious issue in the US.

Dammy

So basically she screwed the guy hoping to get a better position in the company. When she didn't, she took him to court and called it sexual harrasment.

Neat. She really can't loose.

-- Peter

[FluffyMcDeath]

Tigger wrote:

[...] and lets be serious we about fired our president for lying about having sex with an employee.  
      -Tig

I think, technically, Jim had sex with a contractor.
Bill had sex with one of YOUR employees.

[Tron2k2]

You're right Fluffy.  But, while I was at Amiga in Snoqualmie there was a very interesting talk about this Collas deal one day.  "cocaine' and 'not the first time' were also mentioned-the rumor was at that time that Collas' personal life was kind of a shambles.  Which is a shame-I met him once and genuinely liked him.  Sometimes personal demons get the best of any man..

But it seems not too uncommon among the power elite.  Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.  But (looking at the pic of the Annex girl) it also rocks absolutely ;-)

[pixie]

Please dammy... when HARASSMENT actually happens... and those times they actually lay under?

shoggoth wrote:
So basically she screwed the guy hoping to get a better position in the company. When she didn't, she took him to court and called it sexual harrasment.

Neat. She really can't loose.

-- Peter

I don't know where ANY of this came from, since none of the people who were there have indicated ANY SUCH THING.  She was not with Gateway (Annex were brought there under contract as paid performers), she did not hope to advance, there was ZERO court case.  Geez people.  It's starting to sound like b*tchbunny around here with all the rampant speculation...

Jim slept with her (purportedly by several second-hand sources), it got back to the boss, they argued because it did not help put Gateway in a good light (there were rumors of other personal problems).  Jim was sent packing.  End of story.

Wayne

[amipal]

Sow, this is the first I've heard about this, and I've been logged on since '98. Its amazing the things that crawl out of the woodwork sometimes!

[guru-666]

Jim sounds like the hippest guy that was ever running Amiga!
I mean he managed to pick up hot chicks at an Amiga conference.  Do you understand how difficult that is?  I mean he did import them, but non-the-less!  Then on top this guy may have been snorting some coke.  Shame on Gateway, he should have been promoted!  I mean that.  He may have been able to close some deals.