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Offline carlsTopic starter

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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2003, 12:08:20 AM »
@mikeymike
Thanks!
Ok, first question :-)
Would the FBSD4.8 mini-ISO cover my needs? I'll download and compile thttpd myself.
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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2003, 12:10:56 AM »
@everyone
Thanks for your suggestions.

@dammy
Hmm, figures, a Linux dist without SSH is like... uhm... a Linux dist without SSH :-)
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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2003, 12:29:49 AM »
Carls, damnsmall does have ssh, sshd and a small web server.
 

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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2003, 12:42:42 AM »
Have been lurking for a while but thought I'd chip in with my 2p worth.

I use FreeBSD 4.5 here on my home network.  The machine is an old Pentium running at 120Mhz, has 64Mb RAM and about 600Mb of disk space.

It serves me well running as a firewall/gateway for the network, plus runs Apache with PHP and MySQL.

Basically to cut a long story short I'd go along with the FreeBSD, or other BSD recommendations. ;-)
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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2003, 12:45:20 AM »
Slackware! Slackware!
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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2003, 12:54:43 AM »
@Cymric & Dana
Well, I AM fond of Slackware but I want to try something new. I've been in Slackware-land almost exclusively since 1995, and now Debian-land (all the Linux boxes at work are Debian machines). I do understand the Debian philosophy but it feels kinda crippled when neat stuff like Pine and Pico isn't supported by the distro team.

I want my little machine to differ from the masses (of servers at work) :-)
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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2003, 12:55:42 AM »
stick QNX on it and watch that old thing fly  :-)
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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2003, 01:57:15 AM »
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stick QNX on it and watch that old thing fly


agreed, If I remember corredtly, I  was able to put Neutrino (qnx4) onto one (bootable) 1.44MB floppy disk and it ran a web browser and a web server in that small footprint.

As a plus its RTOS , therefore swift and agile.

{caveat}=Momentics (qnx6) doesnt like my netcard. ;{
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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2003, 03:57:28 AM »
Try debian instead.. Then you have full control of what too install... And can only do apt-get apache, mysql and so on... then it both install the program itself and solves dependicies... And works fine on an old system. I had irc server, web server"with mysql and php", fileserver, mail server, routing, ftp running on my p1 133@200, 2gig caviar wd and 64 meg ram
 

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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2003, 10:20:30 PM »
Right, old habits die hard...
I was seriously considering FreeBSD but since I want the machine to be up and running at a functional and reasonably secure level by wednesday I chose Slackware.

And behold! It works! And I only got the packages I wanted, a normal kernel, ssh, sshd, etc.

edit: spelling
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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2003, 11:02:15 PM »
@ carls
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Would the FBSD4.8 mini-ISO cover my needs?


That'll give you a wide range of hardware support, basic unix tools and ssh/d.  You can get it to install from FTP easily too.

The /usr/ports collection for installing stuff [easily], basically you find what you need in the dir structure, do a make install clean and off it goes, downloading what it needs.  I don't know how secure/up-to-date FreeBSD 4.8 is now, I don't keep up with FreeBSD anymore.  Another way for installing stuff is through /stand/sysinstall (an app) pre-compiled packages, basic configuration options and ports collection options are also available there.

The FreeBSD official documentation on the website is quite readable by UNIX documentation standards (aka. unusually good).

Easily = I can do it and I don't know much about UNIX :-)
 

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Re: Debian
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2003, 12:04:01 AM »
One of my main complaints with the commercial distributions is that the majority of them only release bug-fixes for older releases, they don't release, say, PHP 4.3.2 when the distro came with PHP 4.1.1.  This is true of all of the RPM distros.

The way around that I found was to use Debian.  With the 'apt' util you can upgrade your entire system to the latest release using one command (apt-get dist-upgrade), update your installed software to the latest versions (apt-get upgrade), or just install one specific program (apt-get install progname).  It keeps a local filelist of all of the available software from the various file sites, which is updated using another command (apt-get update), and you can change the list of sites you want by editing a text file (/etc/apt/sources.list).  Finally, they tag specific program releases as either stable (stable as a rock), testing (generally stable as a rock) or unstable (tends to be quite stable), and you can set apt to only pick files from one branch by editing one file (/etc/apt/preferences).

Personally I use Debian Sid (the cutesy code-name for the unstable releases) and have done for several months, even with the KDE 3.2 CVS builds, without any problems that I didn't cause.

To make things easier for beginners, there are several commercial distributions that are based on Debian - Lindows, Lycoris and Libranet, along with the self-booting Knoppix which makes a great emergency repair disc.

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Re: Debian
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2003, 02:19:39 AM »
Yay! It's online!
http://gonzo.1av10.nu/

I'll register a suitable domain Real Soon Now.
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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2003, 02:59:08 AM »
There is just soo many things wrong with your post  :-)

Firstly, if you had checked the RedHat Errata page, you'd have noticed that RH6.* is now unsupported. RH7.* is also heading towards its EOL as well.

Secondly, why didn't you just start with RH9? It's about as bleeding edge as RH can be!

Thirdly, try Gentoo.
 

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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2003, 03:02:25 AM »
Seems clear to mea that this is an AROS situation... oh? off topic?

nah... just port TCP/IP and apachie to AROS and it's perfect :-D

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Re: I'm so @£¤%£$# angry
« Reply #29 from previous page: July 05, 2003, 03:05:12 AM »
@jamesm
That's just another reason I've just learned not to run RedHat... "It's now unsupported" - how very Microsoft of them :-) I have no interest in trying RedHat 9 on a P166 with 96 megs of RAM. Plus, now I've installed Slackware and I actually feel quite at home with it. It reminds me somewhat of AmigaOS, don't ask me why...
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