Amiga 5000 ?

[N7VQM]

Staticman wrote:
Wasnt there something called Boxer Amiga 5000 project?

I think it was just "Boxer."  The project was worked on by Mick Tinker and financed by now-defunct Anti-Gravity.

It's too bad this project is dead now.  The AGA-chipset-in-FPGA would work nicely with the PDA idea expressed in the ANN thread.

[Agafaster]

Kronos was heard wittering

? Wasn't the A5000 a DCE-project from the Escom-times ?

I think it was, but I think it may have been post Escom (possibly pre Gateway ?)
I recall DCE being involved, as was Toni Ianiri (IIRC) from Power Computing in Bedford - he has been involved in the ill-fated Apple Clone market along with Motorola, and others.
pity, it looked an interesting box (the A5000 that is...)

[Gopal]

Amiga History Guide (http://amiga.emugaming.com/)
has a lot of information covering A5000 (http://amiga.emugaming.com/power5000.html) and the Boxer design (http://amiga.emugaming.com/boxer.html).

Gopal

[Tomas]

its way to late for that now. 68k is dead. But if some company had done that years ago, instead of just milking the old current hardware.. Then i think Amigas future might have looked much brighter now. And would have probably moved onto ppc ages ago. Too bad escom only milked the last life out of it  :-(

[takemehomegrandma]

An Amiga-on-a chip, would be a better idea.

The AGA-chipset-in-FPGA would work nicely with the PDA idea expressed in the ANN thread.

This looks interesting in the above context: http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xil_prodcat_landingpage.jsp?title=Virtex-II+Pro+FPGAs

A high performance FPGA with 0, 1, 2 or 4 PPC405 processors @400 MHz included on the chip!

BTW, have you heard of the Genesi "Eclipsis"? That will require a new kind of chipset. Before the deal with MAI screwed up, they were cooperating with MAI to develop one. That won't be AGA though ...

[Corrie]

I really believe that a 68060 @ 100Mhz with a decent gfx card, soundcard, 128Mb RAM, Ultrascsi controller would have been a good platform to run most applications, for god sake my A4000T 060 66Mhz, 128Mb, Ultrascsi runs excellently!!!! I simply do not see the real requirement for 1000Mhz+

After all, our Amiga is well known for iniative... ;-)

[PMC]

Wasnt there something called Boxer Amiga 5000 project?

A chap called Mick Tinker designed an Amiga compatible machine based around hardware emulation of the classic chipset.  The emulation could be tweaked for improved perfromance, and the motherboard featured all kinds of improvements/enhancements etc.

This would have been an ideal stepping stone between the A4000 and the Amiga One, but unfortunately it never got beyond the prototype stage, and I believe that people who put deposits on the Boxer got their fingers burned.  All very nasty.

A shame is it was a great "nearly" machine in concept.

[Sloxa]

there is somebody giving away free A5000 prototype.

if somebody wanna know more, more info is
suomenamigakäyttäjät ry,  forum, there is place
sakutori and myydään.
 :-)

[chipper701]

Cool idea. To be honest I don't see why not. After all they rereleases the Intellivision with a 10 game cart for $35 catering to retro-gaming.

[cv643d]

"19th March 2000. The new prototype is in the process of being tested. The laborious task of powering it up in stages, developing additional logic to support features and making sure everything works as intended is under way. I am expecting 2-4 months of development time before it is at the stage where it can be release for production."

-Mick Tinker

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I think 2 years after they cancelled it (Boxer). And yes I remember that article in Amiga Format to about the Boxer... was it a 4 or 5 page article?

 I had the money and a spare 060 for 2 years. I would buy one today if the price was around 300 euro including CPU. I dont understand this guy Mick Tinker, he could at least have sold those mini A1200 clone Acsess systems to normal Amiga people instead of only selling them to the proffesional market.

[Nick]

I`ve seen the Death Vigil DVD and as the guy walked around the old C= HQ he went into the research place and there was an A5000.

I want my own copy of that DVD!

[vortexau]

Kronos asked:

? Wasn't the A5000 a DCE-project from the Escom-times ?

Bingo! I recall an A5000 and A6000 as third-party projects in that era. The A5000 was to be A1200-mobo based, and the A6000 to be A4000-based.

I was hangingout for a BoXeR in 1987.

 ° What of the REC Wonder TV A6000?




 ° What of Cerberus?

 ° What of The November Box?

(and the lamented MMC that Gateway-Amiga defaulted on?)

[Nick]

Hasn`t anybody seen that Death Digial DVD? I`m sure theres an A5000 in it.

[Nick]

Guess not :-)

[Jope]

Melott,

The 060@50MHz is not a fast cpu any more by today's standards. :-) the current "dream classic" ought to have something 040 compatible but 50 times faster. Literally at least 50. And 040, because not everything works well with the 060. :-)

I once had a dream of someone building a CPU card that had a Pentium or better CPU on it.. This would then bootstrap off a small rom and start emulating the 040 at high speed.

Unfortunately something like this would go to waste on the classic Amiga - the hardware isn't quite up to it any more. The buses are too slow, so the performance will die..

It'd have to be a whole new computer on the CPU card, one that only communicates with the onboard peripherals through the FAST slot. That's what they were going to make with the first AmigaOne, but perhaps it wasn't feasible..

Personally, I think the current way is the best, totally new hardware with "enough" legacy emulation in software. The only way to go forward is to stop looking back at some point.

[Jope]

Nick wrote:
I`ve seen the Death Vigil DVD and as the guy walked around the old C= HQ he went into the research place and there was an A5000.

I want my own copy of that DVD!

Eh? There was no such thing. The rarities shown were the A3500 and the NYX prototype. No A5000s.