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Amiga 5000 ?
« on: June 28, 2003, 10:26:28 PM »
With all the talk lately about the A1 and all the other
options, and even someone selling 'new/referbished'
A500s.
Where would the Amiga be now if someone picked
up where Comodore left off.
I mean we all love our classic Amigas... so what if
some company decided to start making a new
'Classic Amiga'. Like take an A4000 MoBo and
stick an 060 at 50mhz, soup-up the bus alittle,
make the PC slots active so you can use those
nice PC GFX cards or defalt to AGA. Maybe add
a couple USB ports and FireWire.
Priced along side a PC,  
      I'd buy one

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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2003, 10:29:32 PM »
Would you really though? I mean, yet another 68k based processor in today's PPC world??? I dont think I would. I dont see how it can be that hard to take the PPC on a board similar to that of Apple's (or a clone, like PowerComputing) add a more amiga like firmware/bios; throw amiga os onto it and call it the AmigaOne or A5000 for that matter.

Maybe I am naive, but ignorance is bliss.
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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2003, 10:38:29 PM »
There were A5000s planned by several differnt companies along those lines.  Sadly the custom chips are not available anymore and so a new "old style" amiga just isn't feasable.

There was a time where amiga clones could have boosted the market, unfortunately that time has well and truely past.  IIRC Commodore UK were thinking of openely licencing the custom chips so that could have been a possibilty.   Gateway could of made some money out of Amiga this way too (there are loads of ways Gateway could of made cash out of Amiga, but that's another story)
 

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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2003, 11:09:11 PM »
I thought like that back about 5 years ago. I would have bought a
Boxer or a Walker back then.

Now I don't think that re-making a classic Amiga would be very cost
effective let alone possible. Pegasos and A1 have shown that PPC is
the way to go at least for now.

Wish all those dreams had come true long ago. :-)

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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2003, 11:24:54 PM »
Now an 060 at 1GHZ would pique my interest. Alas those what ifs...

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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2003, 01:44:16 AM »
Amiga 6260 would be a kicker! ColdFire V5 at 800MHz, customed AAA+ 3D as default, Zorro 5iX slots, PCI, AGP, SD-RAM slots, Video Slots x32, usb 2.0 as standard...

yeah, such Amiga would kick Apple :) I am sure! 100%!
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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2003, 02:06:45 AM »
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melott wrote:
With all the talk lately about the A1 and all the other
options, and even someone selling 'new/referbished'
A500s.
Where would the Amiga be now if someone picked
up where Comodore left off.
I mean we all love our classic Amigas... so what if
some company decided to start making a new
'Classic Amiga'. Like take an A4000 MoBo and
stick an 060 at 50mhz, soup-up the bus alittle,
make the PC slots active so you can use those
nice PC GFX cards or defalt to AGA. Maybe add
a couple USB ports and FireWire.
Priced along side a PC,  
      I'd buy one

  Mel Ott
 (dreaming)
 ;-)  ;-)  ;-)  ;-)


IMO, it would be really nice! :-)

Please have a look at this (look for my comments in the thread).

What do you think about this?

OK, perhaps the coldfire CPU isn't the ultimate choice of CPU. The PPC will obviously be better from a performance (and future) POV, but IMO it would be nice to have a more "Amiga" like system design than just another "PC" CPU/NorthBridge/SouthBridge design. The "Not Yet-Another-PC" would be the main point, not the CPU itself.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the "Commodore One"! :-D
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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2003, 03:43:47 AM »
   I agree there is not enough difference in the A1. Hope the OS (and apps) is a real killer and makes up for it. What had sold me on the Amiga was the graphics and video capabilities (way ahead at the time). Now it is looking like being well behind at the start. But at least it is a start.
  I would love a modern fast machine that I could move my toaster/flyer equipment into. Would a coldfire or shark be compatible?

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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2003, 06:27:33 AM »
I would have liked to have had seen an Amiga based on the Hombre chipset. I wonder where we would have been  if the Amiga was aloud to move forward at full speed and didnt have all the problems that we have had over the years.

Information about the Hombre chipset:
-CBM's Plans for the RISC-Chipset By:  Dave Haynie-
http://amiga.emugaming.com/haynie3drisc.html
 

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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2003, 09:36:32 AM »
Someone here mentioned the Commodore One. I took a look at some information on it, and it doesnt seem very appealing for the near £200 price.

I just bought a complete Apple Mac 8550/132 inc monitor for £52, including delivery @£30 (it was a very heavy package). Thats based on a 132MHz 604 PPC Processor. It seems a pity similar performance for price cant be had with Amiga.
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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2003, 10:49:26 AM »
Wasnt there something called Boxer Amiga 5000 project?

Or is this long been dead wood now?
 

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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2003, 11:24:42 AM »
An Amiga-on-a chip, would be a better idea.
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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2003, 12:17:43 PM »
There was a Boxer and an Amiga 5000. They are/were both different machines. The A5000 was a C= thing. In development when it went belly up. Looked quite good (for then). Shame it never materialised. The Boxer was unlucky, in that it appeared (well sort of) when things were being setup. Amiga was directionless when the development started, but by the end, they sort of knew where they were going and it wasn`t towards the Boxer really. I wanted a Boxer :-( Oh well....I want an AmigaOne more! :-)
 

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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2003, 12:22:11 PM »
@Nick


???? Wasn't the A5000 a DCE-project from the Escom-times ?
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Amiga 5000 ?
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2003, 12:35:09 PM »
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Staticman wrote:
Wasnt there something called Boxer Amiga 5000 project?


I think it was just "Boxer."  The project was worked on by Mick Tinker and financed by now-defunct Anti-Gravity.

It's too bad this project is dead now.  The AGA-chipset-in-FPGA would work nicely with the PDA idea expressed in the ANN thread.
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