How Many here also use a mac

[amiga_3k]

murple wrote:
You should see the recent thread about Apple being the new Amiga... Macs are hardly in the same category as Amigas. Macs are designed around the idea that users are essentially retarded and need to have their options limited (witness the one button mouse, and Apple's history of hermetically sealed cases).

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You want a good solid system that carries on the spirit of the Amiga, get yourself a good modern Linux install.

Not to advertise Apple here but I feel the need of getting the sharp edges a little softer.

I had a PowerPC 9600 Apple which was very easy to open-up and service! Not even spoiled a single drop of blood while opening it up and cleaning it. OS 9 is indeed a bit programmed in a way that nothing much can go wrong, only if you want to be the 'über-expert' and do things that were never supposed to (on the Amiga it's well possible to do things you really shouldn't). The 9600 has been retired a few months ago, it should now rest in pieces at the dump-site.

In the attic I still keep an iMac 333, first series. This machine is also easy to service. And if you're not too sure about how to openup the case, Apple provides the repair and service manuals for free from their website! These manuals even describe how you can test the mainboard using a good multimeter. So, with that in mind, you can't hardly say that Apple think the users are retards who only need to start Safari.

I've both used Linuxes and OSX. My general feel with OSX is that it is very Linux like (even shares shell commands) only it seems to install easier.

I must admit that the Apple is in the attic now and has seen it's place being taken by a Dell-PC. Reason is simple: Couldn't afford a MacMini of the last series. Once I can, I surely will have a long chat with my wife and get us both one.

So, is Apple the best system? No! Why not? You simply don't get emotional attached to it (I can dump them very easy, can't do that with the Amigas ;-)).

That's my two cents, now back to changing my signature ;-)

[koaftder]

I always hear about people "switching" from one platform to another. Why bother? I've never switched from one thing to another.

I have:
PowerMac
2 Power Books
2 Mac minis ( one running ubuntu)
1 Vista machine
2 XP machines
3 Linux machines

Are people really so dense that they think they have to completely use only one platform or another? Are people so dense that they get hung up on the number of buttons on the mouse or location of crap to click on to get some place or keyboard shortcuts?

[sicky]

I use a G5 iMac now as my main computer, Amiga is now a hobby machine!

[Wilse]

yobsta wrote:
I am just curious how many here use a mac instead of  the usual pc .
I have been waiting for all these years for a new amiga but my patience has run out so i grabbed a macbook and its a breath of fresh air to use instead of a billyGates box.

Typing this on my ibook which is now my most used machine.

adolescent wrote:
I have a Color Classic "Mystic" that runs OS 7.5.  I have a beige G3 that I put together to see what all the OS 10 fuss was about.  I wasn't impressed.  This may change if they open up the OS to non Apple, Inc. hardware.  But, due to the high price and poor reliability I'm staying clear of anything with an Apple on it.

You can't really mix apples and oranges here (no pun intended).  What you've said is about like saying "I've installed Windows Vista on my 486/33 and don't like it"...  

I've got the 2.16ghz Core 2 Duo (yes, the 2 does make a difference) and find it faster and far more reliable than any XP machine I've ever owned (including the 2ghz X2 Athlon it replaced).

My problem as it turns out is far more with Microsoft Windows than Intel.

[Wilse]

I can' tpost pictures to Myspace from my ibook for some reason either, which is annoying.

No problems posting pictures or mp3s to myspace from this iBook.

[frl9lk]

I've probably owned a dozen Amigas and twenty+ Macs since each was introduced. I have always maintained that the Amiga is the most fun machine... it really invites you to make it your own. As a designer, the Mac was a necessity; and now with OSX you can stir things up a bit too.

[adolescent]

Wayne wrote:

You can't really mix apples and oranges here (no pun intended).  What you've said is about like saying "I've installed Windows Vista on my 486/33 and don't like it"...  

I've got the 2.16ghz Core 2 Duo (yes, the 2 does make a difference) and find it faster and far more reliable than any XP machine I've ever owned (including the 2ghz X2 Athlon it replaced).

My problem as it turns out is far more with Microsoft Windows than Intel.

But, you're talking Apples and Oranges too.  If you install XP on your 2.16GHz C2D I guarantee it will fly as should OS 10, Linux, etc.  It's just an awesome processor.  Comparing price and reliability of the C2D systems out there the Mac comes out much more expensive than a Dell, etc.  

adolescent wrote:
But, you're talking Apples and Oranges too.  If you install XP on your 2.16GHz C2D I guarantee it will fly as should OS 10, Linux, etc.  It's just an awesome processor.

Unfortunately, I can't compare apples to apples here, because apparently you can't bribe someone to buy a PC laptop which will run XP any more.  I was even universally told that "loading XP on this laptop will void your warranty" at 4 different stores.

In fact, I played with about 10 different 2+ Ghz C2D processor laptops over the weekend at Best Buy, Office Depot, Circuit City and CompUSA (all of which ran Vista -- yuck).

Doing even simple tasks like loading the control panel window, each Core 2 Duo laptop ran about half the speed of an older Athlon 2800+ with 1gig of RAM that I have running XP.  Trying to pull up Word/Excel/etc was even half the speed of my current iMac running Office 2004.

Yes, yes, I know.  Trial machines in stores are futzed around with by hundreds of kids and there's no telling what's running on it, but I wouldn't buy a Vista-OS'd laptop, even if you gave me a $1000 gift certificate for it.

Wayne

[recidivist]

 People still buy old Macs on ebay;anyone tossing a 9600 or iMac is tossing money.Maybe only $20 to $50 and up depending on model.Why not give it to someone?

There is a Mac site offering old ,color, powerbooks for $49.95 !!! It doesn't take much of a computer to email or download/upload or surf. There are still a lot of people who haven't any computer and such a minimalist solution would be good for them.

Some people forget that not everyone lives in a new house,drives a new car, and has the latest computer,big HDTV, motorhome,etc.

[amigadave]

Count me as one of the members here that uses Macs, Amigas and Windows PCs.  Over the last few years, after buying my first Mac (the last of the Titanium series PowerBooks), I am a firm believer in the Apple brand and prefer it over PCs and Windows.  I feel safer (justified or not) using a Mac for email and Internet browsing than on a Windows system, and I like the way it does some things for the user without having to configure everything.  Like wireless networking, you turn on a Mac and it asks you a couple of questions and then does the rest for you.  Maybe XP or Vista has progressed to this point also, but I have not experienced it yet, at least not like I did 5 years ago on my PowerBook.

If all the programs I need to use were available on the Mac (or better a new fast Amiga), I would never use a Windows machine again.  Just because our legal systems have failed to convict Bill Gates & Co., it does not lessen the crimes they have committed against the many who could have given us unknown innovations.  :madashell:

[MarkM]

Macintosh and OS X ftw!  

My current Mac is an Intel Core Duo iMac with 2Gb Ram, 250Gb HD, Radeon X1600.  The first generation of Intel iMacs.

I used this iMac (running Windows/Bootcamp) to play City of Heros/City of Villains for a whole year until I upgraded my PC.  Worked great!

Got my PC all nice and upgraded, and XP back on (HATED Vista! Slow Resource Hog...be gone forever!) it and it's a pure game machine.

Use Macs at work (production artist at newspaper).

Now toying with an Amiga 1200HD  

-Mark

[Fixer]

Hey I've got a Mac-Mini.. but I only have Windows XP installed on it because I prefer the software available.

I was using Ubuntu for a bit too until I just got tired of it (too much messing about for simple things).

I personally think Ubuntu works better as a kinda emergency-boot live CD backup trick for when my main installed system fails (virus, HDD crash etc.)

No issue with the latest Mac operating system though, I just prefer Windows XP's applications and software.

Oh and I detest Vista btw!

[smerf]

@ murple,

Hi,

Time to anger a few freinds. Please forgive me for I am the smerf!!!

I would never own an Apple because 90% of their users were complete computer idiots who didn't even know how to find the on/off switch on their own computer, most of them where rich and plastic and only turned on a computer to do office work or surf the internet.

This is my answer to all apple users, times haven't changed and neither did apple or its users, right Mr. Wilse, where is your canadian friend Glaucus.

Oh, its great to be back.

Anyhow, for all you people who haven't figured out how to use Linux,

I am using Ubuntu on a Gateway dual core 2 E6300 as my primary OS, and then Windows Vista (the reactivation OS) on a 2nd hard drive, as my secondary Os to play the new games.

Ubuntu is being tried to see if it can hold my data like my Amiga 4000, which has been doing a fine job since 1992 holding all my important data, Vista failed after 1 week, when I was told I would have to reactivate after a blue screen of death popped up.

Now my 2nd computer is a dell running a 2.6 gig Pentium with Kubuntu as an OS. Both Ubuntu, and Kubuntu Feisty Fox installed without a hitch. If you read the directions on the web site first, you should have no problems, install Ubuntu in the safe mode, then if you have a nvidia or ATI card install their restricted drivers to your system.

Linux is almost as much fun as the Amiga was, it is just that they have a bunch of nerds that think new comers are a bunch of idiots that don't deserve their system, they sort of get hot under the collar if you ask for help without trying all avenues to make it work before asking, in other words Linux developers and users are all arfus holes, but I think their system is fun.

By the way avoid Vista, having lots of problems with it, the system seems stable until you start loading some programs on it, I tried Quake (latest version) and my system blue screened, tried an old doom, and it blue screened, plays Far Cry, Castle Wolfenstein, and Call of Duty, really crashed with Amiga Forever 6.0, but seems ok with Amiga Forever 2006.

Amiga 4000, 040, 25mhz, GVP genlock, 18 megs mem & 1.2 Gig hard drive and Picasso II card.

Amiga 3000,  too many things to list.

Amiga 1200, 603e ppc 265 mhz ppc card, 030, 30 mhz card

CD32 with expansion chassis, (hard drive, keyboard etc.)

Amiga 500, plain jane

Amiga 1000, supra scsi card, 4 different scsi's, 8 meg of ram, 68010 accel.

Amiga 2000 Video Toaster.

Where is apple, rotten to the core, wouldn't own one, don't like them, can't stand their idiot leaders philosophy on how a computer system should be made.

smerf

[Newtonian]

I own a (upgraded) Beige G3 AV (second revision motherboard):

PowerPC G3 266 Mhz (more than enough for every day tasks and classic gaming)
512 Meg SDRAM
10 gig IDE harddrive + 8 gig IDE harddrive
3D Rage Pro with 4 megs of video RAM
PCI USB card
multibutton Logitech USB mouse (screw single button mouse)
generic PC USB keyboard
Apple Video Capture card (doesn't work in OS X)
LG 32X burner (screw Apple's SuperDrive)
Dual boot: MacOS 9.1 and MacOS X 10.2.8 (Jaguar)

I have an old 12 meg 3dfx card lying around.  I was thinking of searching the net to see if it's possible to flash its firmware to turn it into a mac compatible 3dfx.


I also have a Quadra 68040 and a Mac Plus.

[danamania]

Another Mac user here. I had a variety of Amigas as my main machines from the mid 80s to July 2000 - then I switched to an old 8100/80 Mac. Yeah, it was OS 8.1, but I kept at it for a while, and loved some of the ease about it. Then an iMac, an eMac, and now eight cores of Mac Pro.

The Mac - it is heaven.

Dana