How Many here also use a mac

[danamania]

Another Mac user here. I had a variety of Amigas as my main machines from the mid 80s to July 2000 - then I switched to an old 8100/80 Mac. Yeah, it was OS 8.1, but I kept at it for a while, and loved some of the ease about it. Then an iMac, an eMac, and now eight cores of Mac Pro.

The Mac - it is heaven.

Dana

[beakster2]

I started using MacOS under shapeshifter so I could use apps that were never available for the Amiga.

Using this knowledge I ended up working in Apple Centres in Australia and the UK.  OS X my desktop OS of choice these days and I run it as the main OS on my Fujitsu Siemens laptop with Windows XP running in VMWare.

smerf wrote:
@ murple,
I would never own an Apple because 90% of their users were complete computer idiots

While I'm glad to be in the 10%, did you ever stop to think that there are people out there who just don't enjoy futzing around with computers trying to make them do stuff.  Said crowd just enjoys a computer that works without all the headache nor hassle?  This is what my Mac represents to me.

Time required to set up my last Windows PC from scratch (loading OS, loading drivers, getting it on the network, getting rid of spyware and crapware to make it usable) : 6 hours

Time required to set up my iMac from scratch : 7 minutes.

For me, my current iMac is absolutely everything that I used to wish the Amiga would someday be.  Powerful, easy to use, fun, stable, well-supported.

All the haters I'm reading here have obviously either never used a current Mac (depending instead on their impression of old macs), or are just predisposed to hate it for whatever reason.

Wayne

danamania wrote:
Then an iMac, an eMac, and now eight cores of Mac Pro.

The Mac - it is heaven.

Wouldn't say heaven, but as far as comparing it to any other platform available, it's pretty damned close..

Would kill for one of the new dual quad-core macs but just can't justify the cost, even for my business.  It was hard enough coming up with the money for the iMac I have now.

Wayne

[seanys]

I use a Mac. It's one of my machines at work.

It's great!

Sometimes (often actually) after it's gone 'to sleep' it won't wake up and I'm forced to power it off.

At times like that I really wish it a had a reset button like my trusty PC. But it doesn't.

And sometimes, when it's booting, it just sits there forever (no, seriously, forever. I once left it for three days to see if it would 'finish' whatever it was doing and it never did) without sying what it's doing and doesn't ever show me the desktop.

At times like that I really wish it a had responsive keyboard like my Amy (ctl-A-A). But it doesn't.

And sometimes, when it's feeling really special, it just closes the program I'm using without even telling me. POOF! Gone!

At times like that I really wish I had a sledgehammer. And I do.

[smerf]

@Wayne

Hi,

You are correct sir!!!

While I'm glad to be in the 10%, did you ever stop to think that there are people out there who just don't enjoy futzing around with computers trying to make them do stuff. Said crowd just enjoys a computer that works without all the headache nor hassle? This is what my Mac represents to me.

Thats just it, there are people who just want to turn a computer on and use it, no matter how much money it costs.
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and personnally I am happy for you, for if the suit fits than wear it, therefore if the computer works for you then use it.

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Time required to set up my last Windows PC from scratch (loading OS, loading drivers, getting it on the network, getting rid of spyware and crapware to make it usable) : 6 hours
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Kanknow what you mean, how could the worst OS in the world be the most popular?

Watch out for VISTA, if you make changes to your computer (like I am always doing (part of the Amigaian in me)) then VISTA comes up and asks you for reactivation, I made 2 hardware changes and one OS change and Vista used up 2 of my activations, according to Vistas screen the third reactivation will cost me $59.00, considering that I just bought it for $159.00 I feel like I have been robbed, by the way 6 hours for install, you really should update and get rid of that 8088 you are running.
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All the haters I'm reading here have obviously either never used a current Mac
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You are correct again Sir!!!

One thing I really despise is someone who draws out a plan on how I am going to use my computer, and because apple's are expensive, their software is expensive, and steve jobs lay out how you are going to use their stuff, I just don't like it, they control you more then winblows, and c'mon have you looked at the price of there software, outrageous I tell you, outrageous.

Thats what I liked about Amiga, cheap good software, excellent people in the community, and I could do with it as I liked. For me $99.00 is expensive for a program.

Thats why I love Linux, open source and free, I can install the OS on as many computers as I like, and I don't have to reactivate. So, Ubuntu has become my main system, it has the feel of the Amiga, trying to figure it out, but when I need it to do real work, it keeps my data (so far), I have only been using it for about 3 months now and no major crashes and it still has the data I put in it 3 months ago. Just think it only has 9 years and 7 months to compete with my Amiga 4000 for not losing data, and no crashes, not even lost hardware, so Amiga was the best bang for the buck.

So sorry if I angered anyone, but I am the smerf you know!

Comparing apples to Amiga's is like mixing water & oil.

Maybe we should rename this site to mac.org or apple.org

smerf

[mariom990]

i use ONLY Macintosh!!!!

[vic20owner]

Me too (now)


Smerf, as far as I can tell the crowd of "idoits" who use the mac is comprised of the same people who once used the Amiga.

Most were forced into Windows or Linux when the Amiga lost the race... and when OSX came onto the scene they had a look and discovered it was everything they ever wanted from AmigaOS and Linux in the first place.

A clean well thought out OS (no registry) with Unix under the hood.  How how could that be wrong?  Even the Amiga did not include a full blown development suite, video and photo editing software, and it wasn't even a multiuser system.

The way applications are installed and removed in OSX FAR SURPASSES what the Amiga EVER did, and it beats Linux without question.  No mounts, no editing s:startup-sequence, no copying files to the libs folder, etc.

Yes, it's similar but more refined, easier, and far more organized.  The entire application is contained within one subfolder which you can drag to the trash at any time.

Usually there is not even a "setup" program.. you just drop the program in your applications folder and that's it.

If you want to, you can even run an application and check it out WITHOUT installing it... then drag the file to the trash if you dont like it.

You'll come around eventually... if not, your loss.

[Tripitaka]

I love the Amiga because of the freedom it gives me, I loathe the Mac because of the freedom it denies me. I've used macs mostly for video work and I F*****G hate the damn things.

Please don't even bother to try and change my mind. The only use I have for a mac is to sell it for Amiga cash.

'nuff said.

[MaDDuck]

Good for you Tripitaka! I wish I could go amiga as my primary PC, but I can't. I need modern things, like DVD playback, web2.0 pages, and FLASH!

I bought my first Mac when Jobs came back to Apple and set the place on fire.
My first Mac was an Indigo iBook 366! I had to move my '040 A1200 off of the desk to make room for it. It hurt, but I have to stay modern.

In a Perfect world, I'd have an Amiga 9000 with a Core 2 Duo, 2GB of RAM, 1TB HDD, and a combo blu-Ray drive. Oh wait, those are the specs of my Mac Mini!

Rejoice for what was, lament for what can never be!

[beller]

I went to the Mac from the Amiga, mainly because I had to have access to Mac sofware/hardware to work on the last A-Max manual.  

While I have a few Windows machines, the bulk of my house resembles the Apple Store!   :-)

Bob

[Tripitaka]

MaDDuck wrote:
Good for you Tripitaka! I wish I could go amiga as my primary PC, but I can't. I need modern things, like DVD playback, web2.0 pages, and FLASH!

LOL, I also use an AMD 4200X2 with NV 7900GTXXX PCIE GFX, SATA HDD etc...and a few others.

JUST NO MACS!!!!

I don't think anyone is trying to "sell" anything here really.  Just to express our opinions.  

I used an Amiga almost exclusively until about 1995/96 when this site (and the BBS before it) and my job pretty much mandated my move to a PC (a 286 with MS-DOS as I recall).  

Last year, my Windows XP PC started blue-screening and rebooting at random, then began randomly claiming that I owed Microsoft more money.  Apparently my hardware started going flaky and resetting some hardware number somewhere, triggering the Microsoft spyware stuff and telling me that "if you wish to continue, you need to contact Microsoft to activate your software" (paraphrased of course since it was like a year ago now)...

Anyway, I call Microsoft, try to explain the situation, and I'm told that "their records indicate that I've installed the software on about 3 dozen machines" (which is complete BS) and that I would need to purchase additional copies of Windows....

Talk about pissed off...

Anyway, I spent the next few days researching a new replacement for my PC.  Whether to replace hardware, rebuild it, purchase a new machine altogether, or what my alternatives were..  One thing I was absolutely sure of was that Microsoft would not get another damned dime of my money.  

My Athlon XP 2800 was only about 3 years old, and I figured that since I had to basically reinstall Windows about once a year just to keep the machine running, I had just run out a year prior and purchased XP Home off the shelf..

What I found was, to build the machine I wanted (for both work and games, including purchasing a new copy of bleeping Windows XP, and a new monitor (while I was at it) would cost me about $1400 to $1600...

Meanwhile, my anger over the Microsoft spyware, erm, I mean "licensing" BS kept knawing at the back of my mind until I just basically thought "screw Microsoft, I'm gonna buy a Mac"...

I bought a 2.16ghz Core2Duo iMac directly from Apple.com, got it in the next day (since I needed to get back to work) and had it installed and running 100% within 7 minutes of cracking the box open.

No spyware, no crapware, nothing to remove.  It plays World of Warcraft and other hardware dependent games beautifully and I'm just fine with that.

As to the rest, I couldn't be happier.  I don't have to futz with anything to get it to work.  Plug in my camera, it works.  Plug in the network printer, it works.  Plug in the external drives, they work (making it REALLY easy to move stuff between PC and mac)..

I guess somewhere along the line, I got old enough and jaded enough to where having to actively try to get computers to do what I ask them to was more of an annoyance than fun.  The mac does what I want, it just works with zero fuss, with zero anxiety, with zero reasons to lose my patience.

Oh, and before the "Mac users are idiots" crowd responds, please remember that I do use the mac for HEAVY programming and network stuff, and since OS X is based on BSD, it's 10x more capable in that department than Windows (home or Pro) ever thought about being.  

Hell, even the "host" command from the command line saves me about 2 hours of work a day looking up domain name resolutions (part of my job).  It used to be;

nslookup -type=NS {domain.com}
nslookup -type=MX {domain.com}

(Windows didn't recognize "-type=all")

Now it's just;

host {domain.com}

How frickin cool is that?

Wayne

[rdolores]

I have a Quadra 650 and a Power Mac 7100. But since most of my Mac software is old (System 7.5), I usually just use emulation (ShapeShifter on my Amithlon Amiga or Basilisk II on my WinXP machine).

To continue my last (seemed better than editing and I feel a rant coming on)...

Sadly, the one real casualty in this for me has been the Amiga.  Where I used to depend on it for everything (running my BBS, writing HTML, etc), I cannot think of a single application that I find even remotely useful any longer for what *I* do (everyone is different, so no flames please).

The only thing I do on "the Amiga" any more is to occasionally fire up the reconstituted PC to run Amiga Forever to play a few games that I miss now and again.

I miss the nostalgia of the good old days.  I miss our once HUGE user group and all those friends.  I miss (sometimes) the days when computers held a mystery for me and were intriguing.

What I had hoped for the Amiga, (and the core reason I was kicked out of the AAC all those years ago) was that Amiga Inc would have had the common sense to follow the Mac into the Intel world, and that the Amiga would now be where machines like the iMac, Mac Mini, and Macbook are now.  Software and hardware that just works.

Instead, we got a company who doesn't understand (and has never wanted to understand) either the Amiga or its community licensing out software development to a third-party company to port a 13 year old version of Amiga OS 3.1 on antiquated and restrictive PPC hardware that -- even if it existed today -- was overpriced, underpowered, and pretty much useless for the real world of 2007.  

Can people use their AmigaOnes?  Sure they can.  No offense is intended there.  It's just that by now, AmigaOnes are pretty much on the same eBay playing field as the old Mac g4's and powerbooks.  

Then (back to the situation), toss in idiots (like myself) who naively jump on board with other scam artist companies whose owners have personal vendettas against McEwen and the situation becomes completely useless for everyone.

In the end, Amiga.org and I are here to support the so-called "Classic" Amiga community.  To hell with both sides, their empty lies and promises of a glorious future until they show me the platform that I want to buy (which is NOT based on the Antiquated G series chips)

Wayne

[swift240]

I used a mac once when it was raining.

LMFAO  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: