OS Enhancement Pack for 68K users - market demand?

[Framiga]

by pjhutch on 2003/6/26 14:14:22

I can see the need for a Bug Fix update for AmigaOS 3.9 and possibly an updated TCP/IP stack esp. for LAN/ADSL users.

Genesis bundled with AmigaOS3.9 CD and a XSurf card with its PPPoE device, works great with ADSL, and it is lighter and faster than MiamiDX.

Ciao

[Rodney]

benJamin wrote:
But, by far the biggest reason: I use WinUAE

Lets not forget you can only run OS4 on licenced hardware. Emulators may be the reason Amiga Inc and/or hyperion never allow this.

What are some other emulators we know of? MorphOS! For this reason alone i'd assume they wouldnt have anything to do with it.

I reckon its a great idea. And it seems so obvious. I'd say someone at hyperion or Amiga inc may have though about it before but because of the licencing issues dismissed it very quickly.

Also, i'd say that there has been so much advancement that, some modules wont run without the upgraded ExecSG. Someone mentioned roadshow,  im not a kernel hacker or anything, but im resonably sure that stuff like TCP/UDP and protocol stuff is normaly a kernels job to understand. Im assuming that road show has been built into the kernel and hence the user applications wont do much on a non OS4 machine. Actualy, im just guess, so i take all that back .

But for licenceing issues, i'd be surprised if hyperion would allow it. Good i dea though... maybe theres some checks you can put on a CD to determine what system your running. I think i'd be very good for those people running old systems to have this.

[vortexau]

There are both YEA and NAY sides to this idea!

OS3.5/3.9 had minimum requirements of 020, 6Mb RAM, CD-Rom etc.
You HAVE to leave some of the past behind! Bought ANY 33.3/45 records or 12" LaserDiscs lately?

ANYONE running a 68000 except for floppy-based '80s games can't really expect a new OS, and they don't need one as those games don't need more than just the KS . . . you know what I mean!

The ColdFusion project offers MORE than just a 200Mhz speed . . . there's provision for 256Mb RAM, GFX Card, and even LAN connection (I think).

For me, 68060 at 50Mhz is starting to wear thin but the ColdFusion does offer a bicycle-path beside the A1 Transit lane. Who would deny that the AmigaOS is so efficient that for 90% of computer tasks a 2Ghz processor is NOT really necessary?

A CD32-based Scala presentation can STILL surprise an audience, used to PowerPoint, particulary when they TRY to get their heads around the fact that its controlled by a 14Mhz processor!

I don't own an A3000, but if ColdFusion AND a OS past 3.9 are available, I'd be in the market for one -- even have a prospective replacement case for that combination! It has space for EIGHT 5¼" devices and is big enough to sit on! Then it would only need upholsetry, or a cushion. Who said that an A3000 had to be just for the desktop? :-)
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Laptops? Palmtops? Time to break the mold - I want my SubBum computer!

[downix]

I know I'd buy AOS4 for my A1000.

[amigamad]

Personally I'd prefer Hyperion to spend their time making OS4 the best it can be for PPC

i wish they would do the amigaone version fist and drop the cybervision and blizzard versions. :-)  :-o

[downix]

@Rodney

MorphOS is not an emulator, it has an emulator called Trance included.

[garethamiga]

I'll answer the original question directly.

I paid UK£30 for OS 3.9 for my A1200 68060.
I downloaded the two free Boing bags to make it 3.92 or whatever you want to call it.

I like the OS because it is so fast and comfortable, but 680x0 is not the future unless someone starts making them in ghz instead of mhz.

I would buy another update but only if it were cheap.  I need that money to put to a PPC Amiga, and so should other people.  If no more 680x0 hardware improvements are made, the machine will fall behind more and more.  I would not use, say, an Atari XE with 128k RAM and a floppy disk drive in 2003, but in a few years' time, my current Amiga will be like that is now.



Tip Of The Day: in British English, US spellings are acceptable only as proper nouns - Pearl Harbor is a harbour, the Medal of Honor is for honour, etc.

[benJamin]

@vortexau
Being in an eight-piece ensemble, including a DJ, and living with two vinal junkies (hip-hop, classical, etc.), I don't need to buy records.  I hear them more than the radio.

Bought any 12" Laserdiscs ever?

Next stop OS3.9, then A1.  I need an OS upgrade, and I was actually thinking of something like the 'Amiga Club' (not wanting to Jynx anything...) where, for however many months I invest in the operating system, I am entitled to the culminating release of all the works done during that period once they are stable.  ie., no upgrade for four months, then if you can't afford it for three months because you have to pay a medical bill or something, you still get the next upgrade, whenever it is, probably reminding you to continue subscribing.  The more subscribers, the more work, the more work, the more improvements, the more subscribers, etc..

Might be a difficult DBMS, but its the way of the future.  Just look at the next generation mobiles and consoles on the horizon.


benJamin

"Quickly, now, there isn't much time."

[gnarly]

redfox wrote:
I would require a 68000 version, because my "classic" Amiga 2000HD does not have an accelerator card.

Ohferchrissake, I hope you're joking :-)

Back when the A1200 came out and magazines started releasing AGA-only coverdisks they were bombarded by people who still wanted OCS/ECS support.

Then they got the same complaints for years when they switched to CD-ROMs instead of floppies.

And now you want OS4 for your 68000 machine!!? Do you see WindowsXP supporting the 286? Or MacOSX supporting the 68000?

Your computer is a squillion years old, so don't whinge when software no longer supports it! Gah! :-)

[ksk]

I want the update if it's bundled with a 68080/300Mhz ...  

[jeffimix]

IBrowse2.3 IS 68k and will remain so (till 3.0 is released).
RoadShow is planned to be sold as 68k.
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sweeto good replacement for MiamiDX