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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 11, 2007, 01:51:28 PM »
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Ivanhoe wrote:
OS 4.0 update 4 is cool.
How can it be the final version?


It's not. There's OS4 final update, which comes after that one. Log in to Hyperion's website to download it.

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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2007, 01:59:02 PM »
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So you are like me and consider both AROS and MorphOS as much "Amiga" as Hyperions OS?

I don't have any problems with that, and I respect also who has different opinions on that. I also respect negative comments on some particular "types" of Amigas. What I find annoying though is the heavy sarcasm some like to use to express their negative opinions, it always makes me feel like "your opinion/taste/preference is wrong, mine is correct". Hence my comment.

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Wow, an Amigan with a brain and a personality. ;-)


Sarcastic enough? hehehe Just kidding.
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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2007, 02:02:34 PM »
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it's good that you show a couple of movies running at the same time. At the meeting I attend we have run about 4 movies at once - now THAT really gets people's attention!

Some people are easy to impress, I guess.
windows can't play four moviews at once. so, yes, that's impressive.

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pulling the screen down and showing another screen is VERY good! Even better would be to show Several screens and Keep Pulling more down - THAT is what blows people's minds!

Huh?
I guess you didn't watch the video or see an AmigoONE with OS4.
this is one of those features that Amigas can do. Sorry it doesn't make you happy.  :roll:

It makes me wonder whay you are here......
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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2007, 02:03:47 PM »
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it's good that you show a couple of movies running at the same time. At the meeting I attend we have run about 4 movies at once - now THAT really gets people's attention!

What exactly is so special about it these days?
I am currently as i am writing this running 4 xvid movies at once using xine under ubuntu. All videos are running perfectly smooth.. It was indeed impressive in the beos days, but not anymore, at least not when compared to linux. I dont know how Windows handles this task though.
 

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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2007, 02:08:08 PM »
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Wow, an Amigan with a brain and a personality. ;-)

Sarcastic enough? hehehe Just kidding.

If the sarcasm would be like this, I'd appreciate it much more  :-)

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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2007, 02:12:29 PM »
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windows can't play four moviews at once. so, yes, that's impressive.


Get out of town! ;-)

Which Windows are you talking about? 3.1 on a 486 or summat?  Seriously, I don't even use windows other than at work and I wouldn't make baseless claims like that.  Windows cannot do many things but lets be honest about what it can and can't do.

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It makes me wonder whay you are here......


Probably because he know more about the internals of the Amiga OS than anyone else in this sorry "community" we are part of I guess.
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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2007, 02:20:27 PM »
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windows can't play four moviews at once. so, yes, that's impressive.

That's ridiculous claim. Windows has absolutely NO problem whatsoever to play multiple (say 10) movies.

I'll get some nice screenshot made once I'm back home.

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this is one of those features that Amigas can do.

Frankly, screen dragging is boring and slow way to do anything usable. It's much faster to cycle thru all the screens with say MMB.
 

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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2007, 02:21:49 PM »
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Varthall wrote:
I thought this was a forum dedicated to users who like Amigas, I guess I was wrong.

Oh, I like Amigas alright. I liked my 500 and 4000 a great deal, in fact. Nowadays, I like them in perspective. The OS is nice and simple and provides a good illustration of many modern multitasking features. When I'm battling with tricky features in Linux I usually look up how it's done on the Amiga first. Of course the two systems are not really comparable, but I find learning by analogy works very well in this case.

Modern Amigas are a waste of time, effort and money, in my book. It's all in the software these days, and what has been done on the Amiga can easily be duplicated on different platforms. In fact, the Amiga is now duplicating what other people have done on other platforms. I cannot be impressed by such activities, really.
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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2007, 02:24:04 PM »
I am gonna fire up my winxp laptop and test the claim that it is not able to run multiple videos at once.

Edit: 3 wmv files with fairly good quality was playing back just fine in wmp classic. I saw zero dropped frames or slowdowns and it used around 80-90% cpu. 4 movies at once would result in 100% cpu usage and slowmotion playback, but this can be explained by the fact that all these movies were in mpeg4 and in fairly ok res. I am sure i could have thrown up more videos if it was vcd/mpeg1 movies.

To those who have problems doing the same:
Make sure your graphic driver is up2date and that you are not using the default vesa driver that comes with WinXP. I have seen alot of people who just install XP and just use the graphic driver that windows installs for you, which is not optimal at all and will even slow down simple things like scrolling a window, web browser or similar.

Though, even though it aint impressive compared to modern systems/OS, i think it was still very good that it was included in the video, so that one can see that AmigaOS multitasks well.
 

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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2007, 02:49:13 PM »
Anyone doing the test: Make sure you use some low bitrate clip, similar that was used on the amiga demo. It's quite pointless to compare some divx and HDTV playback.
 

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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2007, 04:00:03 PM »
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I am currently as i am writing this running 4 xvid movies at once using xine under ubuntu. All videos are running perfectly smooth..
I'm currently checking out ubuntu as a replacement for my red hat multi-boot system.

it sure looks very nice. I don't care if it's possible to play multiple movies, but if it can get online, i'll be happy.
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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2007, 04:09:45 PM »
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windows can't play four moviews at once. so, yes, that's impressive.

Windows playing 10 movies, with 12% CPU usage

Oh, and this is while playing the movies over network samba mount.

Scaling up: I could play 70-80 movies on my Windows boxen.
 

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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2007, 04:24:07 PM »
Here some more screenshots:

Xubuntu playing 5 movies

and

MorphOS playing 4 movies

Nothing special for most OS's :-P

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I cheated a little bit on MOS, I paused the movies to take a screenshot because CPU load was 100% with all movies playing. However they played fine.

And in fact there are 5 movies playing but only 4 showing because the first movie was played with overlay and as such only displays a black screen if you take a screenshot. It's hidden behind the tsunami.avi.
 

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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2007, 04:43:47 PM »
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Windows playing 10 movies, with 12% CPU usage

Yeah, but the claim was that Windows can't play FOUR (4) movies at once! Must be something magical about the number four that nobody else knows about.
 

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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2007, 04:56:38 PM »
One thing a PC can't do is to give the same pleasure you get when sitting behind an amiga. Don't let others ruin it with their mind boggingly opinions you don't care about in the first place.
 

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Re: Amiga OS 4 Final Release in youtube!
« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2007, 05:01:47 PM »
Had to try. I just ran five movies at the same time without any slowdown in the system nor in the videos. And I am running this on a crappy Dell with the worst integrated gfxcard in the history of computers :)