VIA Nehemiah 1.5 GHz CPU inside Amiga

[asian1]

Hello
On recent TechTV show, they show upgraded Nintendo with VIA C3 800 MHz CPU + mini ITX motherboard, running windows and Nintendo emulator.

Nintendo

The lates CPU for mini ITX motherboard is VIA Nehemiah CPU (1 - 1.5 GHz. There is a company in UK that offer the small system based on Nehemiah.

Is it possible to use Classic Amiga casing (A1200, A2000 or A4000) for the new Nehemiah 1.5 GHz CPU + mini ITX board?
What about cooling and power supply problems?
 
Mini-ITX

If such machine is possible, can the "upgraded" Amiga run AROS, Amithlon or UAE?
What about the speed / performance, compared to AmigaOne / Pegasos G3 or G4?

[KennyR]

-dumb statement removed-

I'll put my glasses on next time! 8-)

[olegil]

I fail to see how a casing could add a bottleneck, but ok.

KennyR wrote:
Any CPU is crippled by Amiga bottlenecks, even if placed on an accelerator board. It would compare very badly against a new PPC board.

I think I read this differently to you Kenny.

I think a 1.5Ghz PC inside an old Amiga case running a JIT emulator would be a cool toy!

I might try it once i've put my A1200 in a tower, as I'll have an empty case for it to go in. :-)

[Pertinax]

I think its already too late...

Its been done already -

http://www.retrosystem.com/amiga.shtml

But I would like to see a A1200 version

mini-itx.com is a great place


Jason

[xeron]

Personally, i'd rather have an Amiga inside an Amiga case.

[KennyR]

Ah, oops, read wrongly. My apologies.

But myself I'd rather choose a designer tower for this board. The Amiga stuff is getting on a bit, and not really that pretty any more. It also has problems with space for its cards and lacks the features of modern cases, such as fan mountings and ATX power connectors.

[Tomas]

I guess its possible... But i think todays g3/g4 is much faster than those via CPUs. This cpus is mostly made to consume little power and run very cool, which goes in cost of perfomance. Even a 1ghz celleron would probably outperform this 1.5g via.

[meerschaum]

unless I'm way off base... I think there was a company making an A1200 style case for PC's....it used a P3 up to 1ghz IIRC...and looked pretty sweet... I forgot the link though

[bloodline]

Tomas wrote:
I guess its possible... But i think todays g3/g4 is much faster than those via CPUs. This cpus is mostly made to consume little power and run very cool, which goes in cost of perfomance. Even a 1ghz celleron would probably outperform this 1.5g via.

You'd be surprised!!! The Via C3 are crap compared to the PIII or the Athlon, but against the G3 they are amasing... when going head to head with Clock frequency.

[Tomas]

WOW! Are g3 really that slow??  :-?   :-(

Ignore him it's an idiot.

[bloodline]

Amiga1200PPC wrote:
Ignore him it's an idiot.

Hey  I only said I was an idiot, it was not proved...

Anyway, get yourself an 800Mhz Mini-ITX and then compare it to an 800Mhz I mac.  Even with the crap uITX Gfx chip it still hold it own, I can even run Reason on it, and run the same songs (and I push the hardware with my songs :-) ) as I can on an Imac... I'm not saying that an Imac is the ultimate example of PPC... but it's a goot idea.

Sure the C3 has crappy Floating point (anything less than 1Ghx has a half speed FPU wich is crap), the G3 is gonna beat it there every time, but the new C3's (1Ghz+) are actually really good, and very very cheap.

I'm not saying PPC is bad, no way, I like the old girl, but don't say bad stuff about the very cheap C3 until you try it, ok?  :-)

PS. AROS runs great on it ;-)

[yssing]

compare, insert CPU, with a G3/G4 running MacOS, that is not fair to the G3/G4, MacOS runs dead slow on anything.
That is not the CPU, but the MAC.

[bloodline]

yssing wrote:
compare, insert CPU, with a G3/G4 running MacOS, that is not fair to the G3/G4, MacOS runs dead slow on anything.
That is not the CPU, but the MAC.

I think comparing an IMac with MacOS and a Mini-ITX with Windows2000 (and both machines running Reason) is actually a great way to test how the CPU's perform, and I wold have to say the C3 gave me more bang for buck than the G3, I can't talk about the G4 which I'm sure is much better!