VIA Nehemiah 1.5 GHz CPU inside Amiga

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yssing wrote:
compare, insert CPU, with a G3/G4 running MacOS, that is not fair to the G3/G4, MacOS runs dead slow on anything.
That is not the CPU, but the MAC.

I think comparing an IMac with MacOS and a Mini-ITX with Windows2000 (and both machines running Reason) is actually a great way to test how the CPU's perform, and I wold have to say the C3 gave me more bang for buck than the G3, I can't talk about the G4 which I'm sure is much better!

[olegil]

I disagree. You're testing OS + motherboard + CPU and claiming the fault lies in the CPU with no real evidence. How do you know it's not the fault of the motherboard or the OS? Or even in the application having been written VERY badly for one platform. I've seen this happen...

If it's slower clock for clock than a P3, it's NOT faster than a 750CX (or at least a 750FX, which is a lot faster than the CX) clock for clock. No way.

[XDelusion]

That is very kool, not a bad idea at all, too bad Amithlon is dead, it would go great with a x86 Amiga.

[yssing]

Well Win2k does perform better than MacOS.

And as for the PIII vs G3, IIRC then G3 is a lot faster, so the V3 can't be faster than the G3.
But I could very well be wrong.

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olegil wrote:
I disagree. You're testing OS + motherboard + CPU and claiming the fault lies in the CPU with no real evidence. How do you know it's not the fault of the motherboard or the OS? Or even in the application having been written VERY badly for one platform. I've seen this happen...

If it's slower clock for clock than a P3, it's NOT faster than a 750CX (or at least a 750FX, which is a lot faster than the CX) clock for clock. No way.

Ok sure clock for clock blah blah... but the MAc cost something aproaching a squillion billion trillion squid* and the Mini-ITX only cost £70... you do the maths.

*Actual price exagerated for dramatic effect.

[jamesm2]

Ok sure clock for clock blah blah... but the MAc cost something aproaching a squillion billion trillion squid* and the Mini-ITX only cost 70... you do the maths.

But it's PowerPC! And five years ago, PowerPC was waaay better then anything x86! It's just gotta be true!

And the price? Who cares! It's going to be the One True Way for Amiga!


LOL!

[yssing]

zealot or zealot not.

If I use x86 I use win on it.
Never did care for Linux, BeOS, AROS, what ever..

Don't care that much for windows either, but since I am making a living supporting and developing for win. well that says it all..

[yssing]

Double post..

[olegil]

Ah, so now we're suddenly comparing OS + motherboard + CPU + application + PRICE?

Whenever someone disagree with you and can actually make half an argument about it, you change the topic. Damn annoying, that is...

Why don't you just admit that you are biased and would never admit to PPC being good anyway?

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olegil wrote:
Ah, so now we're suddenly comparing OS + motherboard + CPU + application + PRICE?

Whenever someone disagree with you and can actually make half an argument about it, you change the topic. Damn annoying, that is...

Why don't you just admit that you are biased and would never admit to PPC being good anyway?

That's not a fair comment. I think the PPC is a prefectly good architecture.
Ok, I do think the G3 is pathetic and the G4 is qutie good... but the new puppies from IBM should be really good.

And until these new IBM build beauties are avaiable at a decent price I will stick to the Athlon, simply because it gives me a lot of power for a very low price.

My comments have nothing what so ever to do with x86 is better than PPC or PPC is better than x86... because there is very little differeance between them (go on check out their technical documents).  I simple get what ever is the most powerfull for the best price, I have always lived by that, and that is what made me choose thwe Amiga in the first place all those years ago.  :-o

[ido]

they show upgraded Nintendo with VIA C3 800 MHz CPU + mini ITX motherboard, running windows and Nintendo emulator.

hmmm? how is that an upgraded nintendo? it's just a PC in a nintendo case...

If such machine is possible, can the "upgraded" Amiga run AROS, Amithlon or UAE?

for all intents and perpose it's just a PC in an Amiga's case... you can (slowly) run on a via chip everything you can run on an Intel based PC. but what's the point, really? how is the Amiga case any better then just any PC case?

[ido]

And until these new IBM build beauties are avaiable at a decent price

don't bet on it. you'll only be able to get them in a macintosh (the kind of which have always been pricy compared to a PC) or in an IBM wokstation (which have thus far been rediculasly expansive - far more then the equivalent PPC macintoshes). by the time bPlan & eyeTech will get them (if at all), they'll allready be outdated... just like with the G4s. Apple and IBM workstations get the top-of-the-line desktop PPC's first, then all the rest. :smack:

[vortexau]

[vortexau]

-{edit}-
Okay, if I already have this POST, I may-as-well
not repeat myself! (NEW pic follows)
For those who thought the Mini-ATX form-factor is a recent
standard!

[Dr_Righteous]

@vortexau

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! *falls out of chair*

[Hattig]

I have one of those 800MHz mini-itx motherboards .... they suck. However for the price you get a reasonable office machine, and with the saved money you can get a small 15" TFT to go with it instead of a large nasty cheap 17" monitor.

The 1GHz Nehemia ones look a lot better though - but they cost a lot more as well.