What are the advantages of Amiga...

[meega]

The Amiga won't complain.

[560SL]

WOW! That screen dragging video was awesome!
Really thought that mig feature hadn't made it up to OS4. Looked really amazing in that high resolution.

Fak! I think im gonna need OS4 after all!

[Jeckel]

There is nothing special with this screen dragging on AOS4, I have the same feature on my good old A4k under CGFX4 with an old CV64 with 1280x1024x16b screens...

It's just nice the feature exists.

[Skyraker]

Being that I'm a car guy, I always read/hear about the ricers (import vehicle drivers) trying to compare their v4 against American v8 muscle. One of the things they try to brag about is horsepower per ci/litre. Its like comparing a Honda to a Ferrari.. in the end its still a Honda. LOL.

I like yank motors, but in no way can any one be compared to a Ferrari.... another thing, a honda can go around corners.

Apart from your Viper there isn't much you've got that can touch us 'ricers'

*edit* Honda NSX? Chassis designed by Senna? compared to what? the lard arsed Mustang?

Cheers

Sky

========= Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo ==========

[bloodline]

Fransexy_ wrote:

I don´t say don´t buy this technology, I say don´t waste it, if you could do the same with less memory, why waste it? only because you have 10X time more?.The 8 bit machines were exploded to the max, they touched ceiling and exceeded it.Do you really belive that today chips are exploted to the maximun?

Actually, I do... Run any modern productivity software (Music, video, compiler) and you can easily push current top-of-the-line dual core 64bit CPU to it's limit... If I can render my project in half the time, then I'm more productive.

Hey, Fran... would you like to buy a PDP8?

[adz]

Fransexy_ wrote:

humppa wrote:

Try to do the same that AmigaOS do on 7 mhz 512k with linux

I think he was asking about advantages that are still relevant _today_.

errr!!! yes you cannot run quake 4, but why I need gazillions of cores, multi MHZ and tons of megabytes for only coping files, view the content of a media, or read o view simple text files or pictures?

A wait now your response will be: but today memory are cheap and computer have tons of memory.Ohh!!! yeahh!! and earth resources are unlimited  :crazy: because a resource are avaliable in quantity not means that you should waste it.And most handheld devices have limited memory and they try to do all that a desktop do

I'd like to see you use an Amiga process the 15MB RAW file my Nikon D200 spits out, or better yet the 25MB RAW from the D2X and then try and work with the resulting 60MB+ TIFF.

[benJamin]

What's so great?

Directory structure and system utilisation:

*  Logical Assigns
*  Disks have names which are USED, so one disk will always appear the same, no matter what computer it is on (sometimes my USB key breaks on XP because it doesn't always register as drive E:, a real pain!)
*  Local (PROGDIR:) Libs, etc. directories override system Libs at a higher level if available for the current program
*  If you don't like the format/disk copy requester/command, just replace the tool with a new one in the appropriate directory.
*  Not perfect but highly achieved backwards compatibility for software using system libraries
*  It's fun to program and use
*  You learn more about what's going on under the hood because its intentionally un-obscure

Etc.


jaminJay
"It's all a matter of perspective."

[Hans_]

adz wrote:
I'd like to see you use an Amiga process the 15MB RAW file my Nikon D200 spits out, or better yet the 25MB RAW from the D2X and then try and work with the resulting 60MB+ TIFF.

I'm sure my Amigaone could do that no problem. Not as fast as a dual core PC for sure, but it should still be able to do the job just fine.

Hans

[James]

1- Melts in your mouth, not in your hand.
2- Can easily be stashed away under the bed, next to your Ab-Master.
3- Wedge case make cool jumps for RC cars.
4- You learn a lot about the different shades of yellow.
5- Smells good.

[adz]

Hans_ wrote:

I'm sure my Amigaone could do that no problem. Not as fast as a dual core PC for sure, but it should still be able to do the job just fine.

Hans

And where exactly can one purchase a said AmigaOne? Whilst I'm there, will I be able to purchase an AmigaOne compatible RAW coverter too? How about PhotoShop, is that availiable as well?


Back to serious mode... Yes, I guess an AmigaOne could do it, if one, there was software availiable, and two, you didn't mind waiting a good while for your filters to process. I've tried working with said files on a PowerBook G4 866MHz with 640MB RAM and it is painfully slow. Besides, I personally don't subscribe to the concept the the AmigaOne is even an Amiga, so from my point of view, my initial comments are still valid.

[AmigaMance]

itix wrote:

Try to do the same that AmigaOS do on 7 mhz 512k with linux

Could you please post again using an unexpanded Amiga 500?

 Good point. :-D

[Hans_]

adz wrote:

And where exactly can one purchase a said AmigaOne? Whilst I'm there, will I be able to purchase an AmigaOne compatible RAW coverter too? How about PhotoShop, is that availiable as well?

Yes I know that availability is an issue. Software wise, there's no OS4 native image procesing software available yet, so there's no software taking advantage of altivec (hopefully that will change soon). ImageFX probably has a RAW import module (haven't checked though).

Back to serious mode... Yes, I guess an AmigaOne could do it, if one, there was software availiable, and two, you didn't mind waiting a good while for your filters to process. I've tried working with said files on a PowerBook G4 866MHz with 640MB RAM and it is painfully slow.

My A1's specs are about the same so I'd expect performance to be similar.

Besides, I personally don't subscribe to the concept the the AmigaOne is even an Amiga, so from my point of view, my initial comments are still valid.

Well my A1 looks and behaves just like an Amiga with Amiga OS4. What makes it not an Amiga? Lack of custom chips? If Commodore hadn't gone bankrupt, they would have made Amigas with PCI slots, and eventually ditched custom chips for standardised components, once they were up to Amiga's standards. All computer manufacturers were heading in that direction.

Hans

[stopthegop]

What's so great?

Directory structure and system utilisation:

* Logical Assigns
* Disks have names which are USED, so one disk will always appear the same, no matter what computer it is on (sometimes my USB key breaks on XP because it doesn't always register as drive E:, a real pain!)
* Local (PROGDIR:) Libs, etc. directories override system Libs at a higher level if available for the current program
* If you don't like the format/disk copy requester/command, just replace the tool with a new one in the appropriate directory.
* Not perfect but highly achieved backwards compatibility for software using system libraries
* It's fun to program and use
* You learn more about what's going on under the hood because its intentionally un-obscure

Etc.


jaminJay
"It's all a matter of perspective."

Totally agree.  The elegance of the Amiga's    modular[/b]  design is unmatched even today.  

[Tenacious]

@ MikeCarter

If you read all this, you can see we have a diverse community.  This question has played out many times and the debate always gets heated, some probably hang out for that alone.

I'm in the "..it's an elegant OS and amazing design.." camp.  My systems have never stopped evolving and still fill most of my needs well.  I use other platforms when I need to (Windows, Linux, Classic Mac and OSX ).  I simply don't enjoy them nearly as much.

Like many here, I've been collecting Amigas, expansions, upgrades, software, and books since the late 80s. If you just climbed from under a rock and recently heard the Amiga name, I have no idea how you could sample a full experience to see if you like it or not.  You almost need to know someone who focused their Amiga in a way you might be interested in (games, graphics, video, music mods, Workbench customization, "..how far can I push this machine..", etc).  

You can do almost anything you want.  I first got interested in Mp3s about 3 years ago.  I now play them on a machine designed 20 years ago! Among other things, that spins my prop.

[CannonFodder]

x56h34 wrote:

CannonFodder wrote:

This is different than NTFS, ext3, HFS+ in what way exactly? :-?

Only Amiga makes it possible! ;-)
At the file-system level, I guess there is no difference, however AmigaOS does not need to be shut down gracefully like Windows for example.

Not that it actually matters or makes a big deal. :-)

I never shutdown my machines, whether Windows or Linux.  On the rare occasion I do have to, I just switch 'em off.

[CannonFodder]

meega wrote:
The Amiga won't complain.

Neither do Windows (With NTFS), OSX, Linux, *BSD, BeOS etc