What are the advantages of Amiga...

[CannonFodder]

meega wrote:
The Amiga won't complain.

Neither do Windows (With NTFS), OSX, Linux, *BSD, BeOS etc

[adz]

Hans_ wrote:

Well my A1 looks and behaves just like an Amiga with Amiga OS4. What makes it not an Amiga? Lack of custom chips? If Commodore hadn't gone bankrupt, they would have made Amigas with PCI slots, and eventually ditched custom chips for standardised components, once they were up to Amiga's standards. All computer manufacturers were heading in that direction.

Hans

Its all just too cheesy for me, but I really disagree with the custom PPC path, it made little sense then and no sense now. Sure, you can run some native Amiga apps, but for the rest you need an emulation layer, that means, in essence, that the A1 is little different from my Athlon64, except mine is faster and I have far greater selection of hardware and software. Had they released Amiga OS4 for x86, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

[miles]

I use WinUAE when I need to (gfx apps).  Up till three years ago I only had my Amiga.  I still have my Amiga and will keep it.

I wish that all my games apps and devies worked under Amiga OS, but they don't so XP Pro it is.

Shame, I don't like Windows.  I really miss DOpus 4.

[DamageX]

I see no reason why I should use an OS that only utilizes 10% of that when "copying files, watching media, viewing textfiles". _That_ would be a waste.

So, hardware that isn't saddled with suitably bloated software is thus going to waste? You might wanna rethink that... LOL

Being that I'm a car guy, I always read/hear about the ricers (import vehicle drivers) trying to compare their v4 against American v8 muscle.

nitpick: i4 or flat 4 sure... but I can't think of any car that has a v4

One of the things they try to brag about is horsepower per ci/litre.

They should stop bragging and take note of the current Corvette motor or the pushrod v8s in the Engine Master's challenge that are putting out 100hp/liter. Personally, I have a BMW straight-six and I brag not about the power but about the sound

What are the advantages of Amiga...
...over other operating systems such as Linux?

One advantage is that since the Amiga OS doesn't include every feature that anyone ever wanted, there is no need to know how to configure that many modules/scripts/doodads. I gotta hand it to Linux, some of the distros are getting a lot more manageable for one who is not a professional. Still, complexity is a tradeoff, IMO.

I'll tell you one thing that I like about the Amiga (aside from all the stuff that was ahead of its time). You can backup your entire system by simply drag+dropping the contents of one disk to another. You can also restore everything by simply copying it all back... or even changing the boot priority and some assigns instead.

You could never do this under windows because of certain files being unaccessible while windows is running. Before win95 you could do it under plain DOS, but then long filenames came along and made DOS somewhat less useful (something that I am still pissed off about to this day to the extent that I insist on always using 8.3 filenames)

apologies for OT ranting

[TNovosel]

On my A4000 604/060, 128Mb, Mediator/Voodoo, I start on same time.

IBrowse
SimpleMail
JaberWocky
BlackIrc
Torrent
WordWorth
PerfectPaint
Prayer2
DOpus
etc...

System respond fast and I have 60Mb of RAM free, on 50Mhz CPU only (with some help of PPC cpu ofcourse).
On left side of Wb I also open small TV screen via my TVCard and watch some movie.
No freezing at all and I feel happy working on my sweet A4k every day.

I know that you can do same thing on PC/MAC, but why if my A4K do job just fine, without any problems, without waiting when I flip screens/programs.

Sadly, this is amiga forum, but nowhere I can see any amiga user?!?!











 

[mr_a500]

Sadly, this is amiga forum, but nowhere I can see any amiga user?!?!

Maybe you didn't look hard enough. ;-)

I'm still only using Amiga. Maybe we should start a new thread "Who's still Amiga-only in 2007?" I think there's at least two of us left.

[Andeda]

MikeCarter wrote:
...over other operating systems such as Linux?

Im a RISC OS and Linux user my self, but iv recently became interested in Amiga OS.

There is a lot of new hardware for sale that supports Amiga OS.  :lol:

[stopthegop]

@Mr_A500:

May I suggest a re-wording of your question? Very, very few people could claim to be only Amiga in 2007 though some (like myself) would love nothing better.  I use my Amiga every day for everything except one or two very specific, unpleasant but necessary tasks that simply have to be done on a windoze box.  Believe me, I would dump that pile of sh1t in a second if not for my hedonistic urges to buy things like housing and food.  I think a better question is: "Who still actively uses "an" (instead of "only") Amiga for real work?"   I mean a real one, not some cheez emulator..  

[Seaquest]

I'm still only using Amiga. Maybe we should start a new thread "Who's still Amiga-only in 2007?" I think there's at least two of us left.

Me too, i only have Amiga :-) and lots of them:-)
It does what i like and need:-)

AMIGA4EVER............

[benJamin]

If the keyboard on my A1200 still worked...

If the CD drive in my CD32 still worked...

If... oh, hell!  I want a new machine.

(FWIW, I max out this Linbox all the time, makes my A500 look powerful...).

But, it emulates my A1200 better than a Winbox, so I'm not too upset.

I still do my pleasure coding (ie, not work or Uni. related) for Amiga OS, and use Cinema4D from my USB key whenever I need it, and PPaint if I can't find a GIMP.

Bring on AmigaOS X (the X stands for XWindows, if you couldn't guess).

jaminJay
"if(AmigaOS4 && newHardware) { money->makePurchase() } else { money->collectInterest() }"

[Tripitaka]

Modern hardware not being used to its full capacity? Mmm... I'm running a 4200 AMD X2, NVidia 7900 GTX, a Gig of FAST Corsair RAM, SATA HDD etc..etc.. and I can still make my system scream for mercy with ease ...Oh yes, that's the curse of the digital artist.

 However, most.... that is to say MOST pc users only use this kind of spec for playing games. They would probably be better off with a games console and a low power consumption, small footprint, easy to use MODERN Amiga for the other stuff ....

...maybe the hardware will be available for this one day.....soon....next week?  ...maybe. :roll:

My A1200T I use mostly to run stuff that has no equivilent pc software, science progs and other obscure stuff that I do for fun. It's a lot easier to use the pc for my main machine but I wish it was not so. If Ainc. get fingers removed from chocolate starfish and deliver on new hardware I'll snap up a new mobo in a flash.

[adz]

TNovosel wrote:

Sadly, this is amiga forum, but nowhere I can see any amiga user?!?!

Hey, I'm an Amiga user, but I use mine for playing games and tinkering with hardware when I feel like it. As mentioned earlier, there is no way that any Amiga out there could handle the kind of stuff I would throw at it.

[GW]

Tripitaka:

However, most.... that is to say MOST pc users only use this kind of spec for playing games. They would probably be better off with a games console

No, they would not..

What console has the following popular PC games?

World of Warcraft
Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars
Supreme Commander
Microsoft Flight Simulator X
Civilization IV

Gamers choose PC, and Mac, because certain types of games work a lot better on computers than on consoles.

MODERN Amiga for the other stuff ....

As long as the modern Amiga lacks modern applications such as MS Office, Internet Explorer, Photoshop and Firefox the Amiga isn't an alternative for most people.

Why bother with a small and obscure platform, like the "modern" Amiga, when you can have a PC that will run all of the programs mentioned above for the same price?

[Tomas]

@adonay
I agree with you on most parts that it is behind in many areas from modern OSes like windows, linux or macos. I was just reaction to the nothing part.
I myself use Linux as my main OS, as the software base on the classic just dont cut it for my daily computing anymore. But i still see some of the few advantages that AmigaOS still has.

[Tripitaka]

GW wrote:
No, they would not..

What console has the following popular PC games?

World of Warcraft
Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars
Supreme Commander
Microsoft Flight Simulator X
Civilization IV

Gamers choose PC, and Mac, because certain types of games work a lot better on computers than on consoles.

True to a point but the console makers are getting wise to this and the divide has become slimmer than it was, C&C 3 for XBox 360 for example.

As long as the modern Amiga lacks modern applications such as MS Office, Internet Explorer, Photoshop and Firefox the Amiga isn't an alternative for most people.

Again true but such software will only be written after the hardware becomes available and then, ONLY then will we have a MODERN Amiga. Your point is a cyclic one and not constructive at all, following your logic we don't need new hardware due to lack of software and we can't have the software due to lack of hardware. Perhaps that's the logic AInc. uses and why we've waited so long as it is.

[MikeCarter]

Wow all this sounds so famillier, though in the RISC OS world we are not lacking an Office alternative or photoshop alternative, just video, java, and a decent modern web browser, we have Netsurf but thats missing Javascript.

So would what would be a good way of getting into Amiga,

Wait to see what the out come of this new amiga hardware is?

Upgrade exsisting hardware?

Emulation?

Thanks for the help,
Mike