Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: Amiga inc  (Read 10135 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline motorollin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2005
  • Posts: 8669
    • Show only replies by motorollin
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #29 from previous page: April 20, 2007, 10:07:17 AM »
How exactly does patching a ROM violate Intellectual Property rights? I did the same thing with my A1200. I patched a 3.1 ROM image with the 3.9 ROM Updates then burned the ROM image to an EPROM. I own both the original 3.1 ROM chips and a full licensed copy of OS3.9. So I'm waiting for a phone call or a letter from their lawyers to tell me exactly which law I have broken. Come AInc I'm waiting!

--
moto
Code: [Select]
10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

Offline a-pex

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2006
  • Posts: 172
    • Show only replies by a-pex
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2007, 10:48:14 AM »
Quote

motorollin wrote:
How exactly does patching a ROM violate Intellectual Property rights? I did the same thing with my A1200. I patched a 3.1 ROM image with the 3.9 ROM Updates then burned the ROM image to an EPROM. I own both the original 3.1 ROM chips and a full licensed copy of OS3.9. So I'm waiting for a phone call or a letter from their lawyers to tell me exactly which law I have broken. Come AInc I'm waiting!


This will understand nobody! Make a picture or a video and you will get mail from the laywers or the police station next to you...

My fault was to delete the whole thread and never talk about it in the public. I am now waiting since over 9 month for a decision from the german public prosecutor, but this case seems not to be so intresting for them... ;)
 

Offline motorollin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2005
  • Posts: 8669
    • Show only replies by motorollin
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2007, 10:51:23 AM »
I have photos from after I booted my A1200 with its 3.9 ROM chip. The photo shows a genuine 3.9 Kickstart screen (there was no HDD connected or floppy in the drive). I will post the photos and see what happens.

--
moto
Code: [Select]
10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

Offline a-pex

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2006
  • Posts: 172
    • Show only replies by a-pex
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2007, 11:05:52 AM »
I think AInc. underestimates the community!!! If we really want, really, we would be able to show AInc. how strong the community still is...

We are thousands of users worldwide, if only 30% will write an email to the customers and investors from ainc (if there are really some) and if we start talking about the true face of this company, they will never be possible to make a deal in this world...

What you think about a small 1 page homepage, with links to all this nice interview, reports, videos, pictures, promises and so on from ainc?
Such a page would be really intersting for future investors and customers. All the informations we need can be found in the internet on amiga pages... :-D

I do not want to sit an my ass doing nothing anymore, we are the users, WE ARE AMIGA!

:horse:
 

Offline countzero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2005
  • Posts: 1938
    • Show only replies by countzero
    • http://blog.coze.org
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2007, 11:22:08 AM »
Quote

a-pex wrote:

We are thousands of users worldwide, if only 30% will write an email to the customers and investors from ainc (if there are really some) and if we start talking about the true face of this company, they will never be possible to make a deal in this world...



This is just lame. If you want to do something for the amiga, start a petition to buy back the name & rights from AInc. I don't know their price, but judging from the look of their website and their desperate actions, it can't be that much. Buy back the name and give it someone who will make something useful with. Like Jens Schonfeld, or Dennis van Weeren, or Hyperion or Genesi even ... Maybe all.

for something similar, see amizilla
I believe in mt. Fuji
 

Offline a-pex

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2006
  • Posts: 172
    • Show only replies by a-pex
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2007, 11:25:51 AM »
One more point... Do you know who was the winner of the motorbike from AInc.? Is it right that this was a CEO from an AInc. friendly company near washington?  :-)

Again only faking...
 
 

Offline a-pex

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2006
  • Posts: 172
    • Show only replies by a-pex
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2007, 11:31:11 AM »
Quote

countzero wrote:
If you want to do something for the amiga


I think I have done quite enought for the classic amiga. ;-)

Quote

a petition to buy back the name & rights from AInc. I don't know their price


A petition will make no sense after all this years of promises and stagnation. And they will never sell the licences and rights... Please inform you, read all the crazy stuff you can found about AInc. bevor making such good suggestions. :-)
 

Offline countzero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2005
  • Posts: 1938
    • Show only replies by countzero
    • http://blog.coze.org
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2007, 11:35:26 AM »
Why ? The way I see it, the amiga name & community is just PITA for them they have to bother with, and waste the webspace & bandwidth from their 20$/month introductory website account. I think they can be persuaded to disassociate with the amiga community for the right amount of money.
I believe in mt. Fuji
 

Offline McVenco

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2006
  • Posts: 1428
    • Show only replies by McVenco
    • http://www.amigascene.nl
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2007, 12:13:08 PM »
Quote

countzero wrote:

for something similar, see amizilla


"Buy AmiZilla Merchandise and your proceeds go to increasing the Booty!"

"$10,373.02 Booty"

Increase the booty? Hell, that amount of money is usually payed to make the booty smaller :lol:
| A4000 | CS-MK3 060@50 | Picasso IV |
| Member of Team Amiga (tm) | FidoNet 2:286/414.18 (long ago) |
| SysOp The Missing Channel BBS | Member of AGA BBS Intl. |
 

Offline Plaz

Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2007, 02:02:44 PM »
Quote
If you want to do something for the amiga, start a petition to buy back the name & rights from AInc.


You are close with the DiscreetFX link.

Look here ... for the DiscreeFX buy out effort.

I'm thinking AmiInc is making moves to pump up the apraisal value of their assets to attract investors or to improve a buy out price. Any one who does there home work on the history won't be fooled.

Plaz
 

Offline madsjm

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Feb 2004
  • Posts: 223
    • Show only replies by madsjm
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2007, 02:37:28 PM »
Quote

countzero wrote:

If you want to do something for the amiga, start a petition to buy back the name & rights from AInc.


Wouldn't that need a larger user base or big corporate sponsors?
If every current Amiga user paid $300 (which is about the figure I'm willing to pay), it still wouldn't amount to much.
Considering what AI is spending on that Kent Center, they probably won't sell the name for pocket change.
What would AI be without the Amiga name? :roll:
 

Offline countzero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2005
  • Posts: 1938
    • Show only replies by countzero
    • http://blog.coze.org
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2007, 02:49:02 PM »
I don't think that Kent center is a big deal. Isn't Bill McEven a local of the area ? Probably he got some contacts and maybe some 'cracknut' amiga fans helped him get the deal. I don't think he spent big bucks for it, it feels like they're trying to put a 'we're a big company' image.
I believe in mt. Fuji
 

Offline a-pex

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2006
  • Posts: 172
    • Show only replies by a-pex
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2007, 03:24:13 PM »
Quote

madsjm wrote:
What would AI be without the Amiga name? :roll:


Edited by admin : profanity
 

Offline DonnyEMU

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2002
  • Posts: 650
    • Show only replies by DonnyEMU
    • http://blog.donburnett.com
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2007, 04:41:22 PM »
Seems like they are too busy getting themselves into the OUTSOURCING business.. People don't really know the name "Ruksun" in the Amiga community so they aren't aware that they are an outsourcing firm out of India providing rates and services that United States workers cannot compete with due to dollars paid per hour.. This is hardly an "aquisition".. They form an alliance with a US company or multiples (Like Lucent who's quoted in their literature) and offer IT services.

There has been a backlash from these operations with a lot of US IT managers due to quality of work provided and after work was completed updates could not be had because the workforce "disappeared". Also, working with someone on another continent has problems with communication of getting the work you want done, finished right.

Also even with a republican controlled congress in '04 a bill was introduced (unsuccessfully) to regulate outsourcing and trying to balance the playfield a bit.

This is a Quote from AmigaDevIndia Site:
"Working Together
 
Companies today need to be flexible enough to adapt to the flux in the markets. Successful business houses are adopting innovative and pliable strategies to improve operational efficiency, and achieving cost reductions through outsourcing.

Outsourcing offers you multiple benefits: quicker time to market, greater returns on investment; and consistent quality. However, the selection of a partner with whom to move forward is a critical and sometimes daunting task. Key considerations involve the selection of a partner that provides both technological prowess, as well as extensive experience of successfully completing small and large projects.

ADI has a proven track record in the outsourced application development sector. Our success lies in the ability to leverage long term client relationships through hands-on experience in quality and cost-effective project delivery."
 
While there is nothing wrong with this business practice legally. In my opinion it's very disheartening to see a U.S. company like Amiga have claims against it by their US based workers not seeing pay for things. While they tool up a staff in India who is centered around Windows and Windows Mobile development and not even doing any custom programming or operation for OS4 or AmigaOne or even classic machines. It could be at least mentioned even if they are having a problem getting the hardware that they plan on supporting OS4/AmigaOne solutions. Gee I wonder why they are not?

Hmm, brings to mind, solve problems with Eyetech/AmigaOne or.. put money into Kent Center and AmigaDevIndia..

Ideas of priorities are starting to form in my mind. What about yours?
======================================
Don Burnett Developer
http://blog.donburnett.com
don@donburnett.com
======================================
 

Offline Ratte

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Sep 2006
  • Posts: 380
  • Country: de
    • Show only replies by Ratte
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2007, 07:06:49 PM »
Quote

Doobrey wrote:
And then there's McEwens answer to question #8 in his 20 questions last year.. ooh, what a suprise that his answer is somewhat different from the truth !



 :lol:
 

Offline a-pex

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2006
  • Posts: 172
    • Show only replies by a-pex
Re: Amiga inc
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2007, 08:59:39 PM »
What is THIS for a picture on the screen?  :lol:  :-P