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MS DOS Emulation
« on: April 05, 2007, 10:40:56 AM »
Hi there,
Im wondering (If it is possible) what would be the best emulator program to emulate MS-DOS on a A1200 with a basic 68020 and 4MB total RAM? Am I asking too much of the A1200 here?

One requirement for some of the software that I have is that the MS-DOS programs must be able (In some cases) to access the serial/parallel ports for interfacing to other devices, as some of the software that I have is control programs for other electronic devices.

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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2007, 11:26:11 AM »
I remember doing just that on my A500 years ago.  I think the program was called PCTask which can be found here (last item on the list)
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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2007, 12:31:35 PM »
Pctask 4.44 can boot up win95. But probably you need a very fast 060 cpu. On my 68040/33MHz it takes hours to install and about 20-30 minute to boot up! :crazy:
So useless. So on a plain 1200 you can run speed.exe or something similar, maybe some older software which is exist on amiga too, but it has not so much benefit.
Maybe a powerup/warpup pc-task can do the job, but this is not saw the sunlight.
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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2007, 12:36:37 PM »
or if you had a big box amiga, u could use one of those cool goldengate cards that are basically a pc on a zorro card that binds with the amiga ...
 

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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2007, 01:07:25 PM »
Chill, he's just talking about MS-DOS, not Windows. :)

As I recall it, PCTask booted the 720k MS-DOS diskette in less than one minute, and it was in fact useable (for text mode stuff)
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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2007, 01:19:43 PM »
or you could try to get your hands on PcX, another usable MS-DOS Emulator for 68k-Amigas. It's not that fast, but for DOS apps it should be enough.
 

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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2007, 01:54:38 PM »
I actually miss the MS-DOS days. Microsoft still had a usable OS back then...

I still use the "DOS" option in WinXP every now and then. Like when I want to create 26 directories (A-Z) to store pictures, mp3s etc. "md a", "md b", "md c" is way faster compared to "rightmousebutton-new-folder-typeinyournewfoldername-enter".

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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2007, 02:11:13 PM »
MS-DOS+NortonCommander was very stable and good IMHO :)

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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2007, 04:13:41 PM »
PC-Task is the program you need.... version 4.4 being the latest and greatest, which is still 10 years old or so! More RAM will help you a lot if you can get it, as will an accelerator, but a 68020 should be enough to get close to XT speeds. You can run MS-DOS up to 6.22, but you're probably best with 5.0 as this came on DD disks rather than HD ones which your 1200 can't read.

Alternatively, get an A500! You can get KCS PowerPC boards for them fairly easily which have an NEC V30 on them (10MHz), 1.5MB RAM for the PC and Amiga side, and will access all the ports of the Amiga, as well as providing up to VGA resolutions (VGA is only mono of course!). A big box Amiga is still the best method though, of course - the GoldenGate being the best bridgeboard out there as it goes up to 486SLC2@50MHz and uses SIMMs instead of ZIP RAM. You may of course have to sell an arm/leg/granny to get one...
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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2007, 06:25:24 PM »
Quote

McVenco wrote:
I actually miss the MS-DOS days. Microsoft still had a usable OS back then...

I still use the "DOS" option in WinXP every now and then. Like when I want to create 26 directories (A-Z) to store pictures, mp3s etc. "md a", "md b", "md c" is way faster compared to "rightmousebutton-new-folder-typeinyournewfoldername-enter".

Nothing faster to use than a command line OS :-)
I do not miss the days of MS-DOS, with fussing around with himem.sys, emm386.exe, only one program running at the same time, and fussing around with IRQ's and so, no, it's good that it's over.
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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2007, 06:30:21 PM »
It depends on what you want to do when emulating x86 ms-dos.
I'd say VMWare or DosBox on a modern PC work better if you really need to run old stuf. But the best option is to get a real x86 from the junk yard. The amiga is not really good at ms-dos. and why should it be?
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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2007, 06:53:07 PM »
the goldengate486 indicated above, is as good as a real 486slc  :lol:  I have one on one of my 4000s , it is like having 2 computers in 1 !



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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2007, 07:46:35 PM »
Gah!  Big pictures make me scroll right :P

Anyway, has anyone played with Bochs?
 

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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2007, 07:56:47 PM »
As i Know Boch is for os4 or/and Morhpos. Not for Os 3.x .

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Re: MS DOS Emulation
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2007, 08:06:01 PM »
Or you could take a trip around and look for PC's on sale in a yard sale and install MS-DOS on it. Some people even give them away for free!!!
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