AmiZilla again, sorry

[Tomas]

pot is soon 4000 now.. if i was a programmer with some spare time, i would for sure go for this..

[neongod]

It will run on a 030!!

But nobody said that it will be useable... It was not a requirement!
So.. maybe it will load up in 5 minutes, but it will run!

Anyway Mozilla is quite useable on a PPC 603e under Linux, so It would also good under AmigaOS. Maybe the 060 version could run too, but extremly slow...

[ronybeck]

bloodline wrote:

As long as Amizilla is Openamiga compatible then it should be possible ot compile it for 68k, PPC and x86... with a suitable OS :-D

CommodoreOne perhapps?   :-P

[Siggy]

It's worth reading just for the some of the funnier comments:first place:

"It's like Monopoly"
> Port Mozilla,Collect $3696

second place:
go directly to /dev/null
do not pass go
do not collect $3696

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made me chuckle

Siggy

[Pyromania]

FAQ updated for  mikeymike yet again, thanx for the feedback, we strive for a clean and understandable FAQ.

[danamania]

It does sound silly to the rest of the world - mozilla for 030s, but mozilla running on a Mac Quadra 40Mhz/68040 was nowhere near as bad as I expected. It took a good while to load, but once it'd finished that thrashing about it was pretty usable. Not something I'd like to rely on browsing for several hours at a time with, but it made me want to just pat the little 040 for putting in the effort =).

The big problem was the UI, which seemed to take up half of the 640x480 res the machine was running in at the time!. Considering that's supposed to be one of its slower points, I imagine dropping that for a native UI would make things just a little better.

[mikeymike]

@ Pyromania

Updated for me "yet again"?  :-)

680x0?  Now it looks like it's supposed to work with any m68k CPU... but of course the problem is now you've recieved donations based on the terms you set up, you can hardly change a major item like removing m68k completely.

I think the pot would have to reach at least $20k (probably more) to actually entice some developers to do the work.  Why?  You're asking a near-impossible task.  Compileable on HOW MANY operating systems/platforms?  Think of it from an outsider-developer's point of view - this looks like a mammoth task multiplied by 10 due to those platform requirements, especially when they don't know what those platforms are.

Admittedly any press attention is good attention, but it can backfire if no-one takes on the project.

Can I ask what happens to the donated money if no-one takes up the challenge?  No, I am not accusing anyone of corruption with this question, I am just interested.

[Pyromania]

Older versions of Mozilla work on 68040 Mac's so this task is not impossible, the porting has already started.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amizilla/

Amiga/MorphOS/WinUAE/Amithlon share a common API so while hard porting to all of them is not unreachable.

Lets not forget that the AmiZilla initative has given the Amiga lots of good press in none Amiga news camps.

http://news.com.com/2009-1088-984352.html

http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/03/06/11/128248.shtml?tid=126&tid=154&tid=95&tid=98&tid=99

Your feedback is always welcome mikeymike.

Pyromania wrote:
Older versions of Mozilla work on 68040 Mac's so this task is not impossible, the porting has already started.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amizilla/

Amiga/MorphOS/WinUAE/Amithlon share a common API so while hard porting to all of them is not unreachable.

Lets not forget that the AmiZilla initative has given the Amiga lots of good press in none Amiga news camps.

http://news.com.com/2009-1088-984352.html

http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/03/06/11/128248.shtml?tid=126&tid=154&tid=95&tid=98&tid=99

Your feedback is always welcome mikeymike.

Would it be possible to make one of the requirements of the Amizilla port to be "100% OpenAmiga Compliant", or a least encourage developers to code for the reference platform?

This would be a major PR coup to try to unite the community factions.

[Pyromania]

I will have to study up on OpenAmiga before I can answer that question. I am a quick study so I will begin my reading about OpenAmiga now. Got any links for me?

Pyromania wrote:
I will have to study up on OpenAmiga before I can answer that question. I am a quick study so I will begin my reading about OpenAmiga now. Got any links for me?

http://openamiga.tk :-D

We are still defining and refining the minimum platform specification for maximum portability betwen Amiga compatible OS's atm. So any ideas you have will be appreciated.  AREXX compatibility is one addition yet to be added.

[Turrican]

I think the FAQ should at the very least say PPC =>200MHz, or to be more realistic, 600MHz.

Mozilla 1.3 runs great on my Intel Celeron 400MHz, 196Mb RAM, win2000 and I have also seen it working on a Pentium II 233 MHz, 128Mb, win98 quite fine as well.

So I think your "realistic" 600MHz requirment "too much". Plus think, that it will run on a very less bloated OS than Windows...

[mikeymike]

Plus think, that it will run on a very less bloated OS than Windows...

What, like Linux for example?  It's been a while since I ran Mozilla on Linux, but I guess it is probably still slower on Linux than Windows :-)

Mozilla 1.3 runs great on my

I guess "great" is a very subjective term, because I don't think any recent version runs great on my parents' P3-550/256MB NT4 box, and that is a well-set-up machine!  To get Mozilla to run "great" on my PC, I run it entirely from a 256MB ramdisk!  Then it starts as quickly as IE does any time.

[benJamin]

What am I hearing?

Hmm... I have a 68030.

When I was at Uni, just to prove it could be done, I used ShapeShifter to run Netscape (albeit, an old and not-so-cumbersome version) better than any Amiga browser at the time.

In fact, if I hadn't been able to hotKey back to WorkBench, I might have moved over to the DarkSide.


AmiZilla should be a cakewalk.

benJamin

At 680x528, you can watch Quake draw the frames, flowing down the screen like waterfalls.
Much faster than Cinema4D!  :-)

[KennyR]

What am I hearing?

Hmm... I have a 68030.

When I was at Uni, just to prove it could be done, I used ShapeShifter to run Netscape (albeit, an old and not-so-cumbersome version) better than any Amiga browser at the time.

In those days Mozilla had nothing to do with Netscape. Try running Mozilla on your 030 Amiga now, and you'll get a nasty surprise. Cakewalk, no way.

Mozilla is still slow on a 600MHz machine, never mind an 030!

[magnetic]

I remember in 96 when I used to surf the interenet on my A1200 w/dkb Cobra 030@28mhz w/33.6 modem and Ibrowse!