AmiZilla again, sorry

[mikeymike]

I couldn't believe when reading the related Slashdot article, the "requirement" for AmiZilla to run on a 68030.  What plain of reality is whoever wrote the AmiZilla FAQ on?

I've written to them about it.  How stupid will this make the Amiga community look   :-?

I think the FAQ should at the very least say PPC =>200MHz, or to be more realistic, 600MHz.

And guys, please don't talk about that you'd prefer developer time to be spent on another piece of software instead, we've been through that before :-)

[KennyR]

See what I mean, mikeymike? Didn't I say this would happen?

[Tomas]

agree on that... first priority should be ppc.. People who still run 68k and expect to run such major apps. :O

[mikeymike]

@ KennyR

If it was you I was arguing with before about it, I didn't realise you were talking about its mention in the FAQ, I thought you were saying that's what would be generally expected.

Scary, either way.

[lempkee]

030 is enough!!!! i know as i played unreal tournament in 1280x1024x32 on my standard a1200 with 4mb fast ram yesterday in 200 FPS!!

bleh..

yes the amizilla shouldnt be aimed at anything below PPC!!! , 68k...well maybe one day...but 030? well if that will be done it will be one heck of a slideshow even on a 060....well thats my guess anyway.

but hey...lets wait and see

[bloodline]

As long as Amizilla is Openamiga compatible then it should be possible ot compile it for 68k, PPC and x86... with a suitable OS :-D

[mikeymike]

@ bloodline

So, no CPU optimisations whatsoever then? :-)

I think the phrase I'm looking for is "and the cow jumped over the moon" :-)

[sdesros]

Well... A 68K version is needed if you want to run it inside of Amiga Forever/Amithlon/UAE.  Also, MOS and OS4 could at least run a 68K version for a first cut/test... after which a PPC compile would be nice.

Anyway, there isn't a technical reason for not to work on a 68030, except that most people would probably go mad before they even open the first webpage.

[KennyR]

Mozilla is already available on systems running UAE. :-P

[mikeymike]

Considering that OS4 isn't going to be ported to m68k at all, and [I think, not sure, could be wrong] MorphOS only runs on PPC as well, what's the point in writing Mozilla for m68k?

There is a technical reason for it not to work on a 68030.  Infact, quite a few.  First off, Firebird really is very slow on a 166MHz x86 box, let alone Mozilla.  Secondly, it costs significantly in developer time to port to another architecture.

mikeymike wrote:
@ bloodline

So, no CPU optimisations whatsoever then? :-)

I think the phrase I'm looking for is "and the cow jumped over the moon" :-)

gcc amizilla.cpp -O3  ;-)

-edit-

but for A500 68000 7.14 Mhz, it'd have to be

gcc amizilla.cpp -O999999999999999999999999999999999999 ;-)

[KennyR]

Let's not forget also that the users of 030 and 040 CPUs would be unlikely to have enough RAM or even HD space anyway, far less a GFX card - notice that AGA is not a requirement.

bloodline wrote:
As long as Amizilla is Openamiga compatible then it should be possible ot compile it for 68k, PPC and x86... with a suitable OS :-D

That's a great idea Matt.

If the frst major (recognizable to outsiders) application to be ported to next gen Amiga's is OpenAmiga compliant then it'll be a major PR coup for us.

Who's working on Amizilla then?  Marktime? Whoelse?

[Pyromania]

FAQ updated

[Tomas]

pot is soon 4000 now.. if i was a programmer with some spare time, i would for sure go for this..