Why revive Amiga?

[NewRevolution]

In the last few days I have been updated on the Amiga front. I?ve found out that Amiga (as we knew it) has divided into two fractions (Amiga Inc and MorphOS), each working towards their own goals? or are they?

I loved my Amiga, and I enjoyed so much comparing Amiga with a standard PC in the early-mid 90s. A standard Amiga had better sound, better graphics, it was a window + CLI based system and it was (at that time) quite fast.

But where is it going today? Why should stakeholders invest money into Amiga? Amiga is (I believe) old technology today. Can the Amiga OS compete with today?s advanced OS?s like Linux and Windows? What dose Amiga have to offer that will make AOS more attractive than other OS?s?

Yes it would be fun to dust of some old Amiga applications (and games). But how much am I willing to pay for that? $800? I?d rather dust of my old A1200 with my 68030 accelerator card and play with that.

Can anyone out there convince me why I should invest time and money in an attempt to revive Amiga?

Can anyone out there convince me why I should invest time and money in an attempt to revive Amiga?

Why do hot-rodders hot-rod?
Why do mountain-climbers climb mountains?
Why do geeks masturbate over the latest gcc update?

Coz it's fun.  No other reason matters.

[mikeymike]

To quote Billie:

"because we want to! because we want to!"

 :-P

Oh, and anyone who feels they need to download a particular track by Billie, think of something better to do, quick! :-)

[Staticman]

ROFLMAO!!

 :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :lol:

[JurassicCamper]

But how much am I willing to pay for that? $800? I?d rather dust of my old A1200 with my 68030 accelerator card and play with that.

Can anyone out there convince me why I should invest time and money in an attempt to revive Amiga?

$800 dollars...

Why...

Cos' Amiga computing is one of my hobbies thats why.

[Varthall]

NewRevolution wrote:
But where is it going today? Why should stakeholders invest money into Amiga? Amiga is (I believe) old technology today. Can the Amiga OS compete with today?s advanced OS?s like Linux and Windows? What dose Amiga have to offer that will make AOS more attractive than other OS?s?

AmigaOS has been always a simple, yet powerful OS. I prefer it to Windows, Linux and MacOS (pre-OSX). Why?

Windows: It's very difficult to get control of it. When I install a program, I never know exactly what gets copied where, at least not always. System and libraries have not recogniseable filenames, so I never know which system files I can delete and which not, a problem I never have with my Workbench partition. I don't understand why a internet browser should be so much part of the system that it's impossible to delete it without making the whole system instable. Also, I don't like an OS which needs to be reinstalled because many software installations were made which have slown down the os.

Linux: it's not standardized yet, there are many window managers around but none of them is the default one on all the Linux distros. Also, many tasks are still unnecessarily complicated (to copy files to a floppy you need to give "sync" command to fisically do it, just everything I experiment makes the system hang - I'm saying this as a Linux newbie)

MacOS: runs on a really nice hardware, I like it but it's too closed, I don't have the freedom to modify system files as I have on Amiga. I still have to test OSX, though.

IMHO the best OS running on PC hardware is Beos - it's similar to Amiga yet it's unique on its own. The problem is that it runs on x86 machines, which market is too much anarchic: there's not a "standard" pc that all the programs should be compatible with, hardware becames obsolete too fast!

Yes it would be fun to dust of some old Amiga applications (and games). But how much am I willing to pay for that? $800? I?d rather dust of my old A1200 with my 68030 accelerator card and play with that.

I use an Amiga1200 with a 68030 card, but I would be happy to run all my programs on a faster machine, especially for PersonalPaint, Aweb, Ibrowse, to be able to play mp3s at full quality, to play games like Quake and Payback, using my os of choice. Amithlon or WinUAE are not an option, they run AmigaOS under emulation, so the programs running on them will never be as fast as they could if they would be compiled for the cpu they are running on. I prefer a native OS, like Pegasos and Os4.

Varthall

[Zorro]

Why revive Amiga?

Well... uhm... ah !  It is...


Because AmigaOS is my favourite OS and I like to use the things that I like...

 8-)


 :-D

[bloodline]

NewRevolution wrote:
In the last few days I have been updated on the Amiga front. I?ve found out that Amiga (as we knew it) has divided into two fractions (Amiga Inc and MorphOS), each working towards their own goals? or are they?

I loved my Amiga, and I enjoyed so much comparing Amiga with a standard PC in the early-mid 90s. A standard Amiga had better sound, better graphics, it was a window + CLI based system and it was (at that time) quite fast.

But where is it going today? Why should stakeholders invest money into Amiga? Amiga is (I believe) old technology today. Can the Amiga OS compete with today?s advanced OS?s like Linux and Windows? What dose Amiga have to offer that will make AOS more attractive than other OS?s?

Yes it would be fun to dust of some old Amiga applications (and games). But how much am I willing to pay for that? $800? I?d rather dust of my old A1200 with my 68030 accelerator card and play with that.

Can anyone out there convince me why I should invest time and money in an attempt to revive Amiga?

Well if The Community has been split by AOS4 and MOS, one could say it will be brought together by AROS...  :-D

I think the new PPC hardware is very exciting, If I had the money I would buy both. Well, AROS is being ported to the Pegasos and hopefully eventually the AmigaONE too, so I don't think buying either PPC solution will be a dead end so to speak.
It just depends on what you can afford, which probably puts favour on the Peg...
If you can't afford the current PPC solutions then AROS on a standard x86 board is your best solution, until your finanial situation improves

[KingTutt]

Why revive Amiga OS?

Because perfection is always worth pursuing... no matter how elusive or how unlikely a goal it may be.

[NewRevolution]

-Edited by redrumloa- reason: piracy link

[Gopal]

I have been following the Amiga scene since I converted to windows years ago. And I had just very good memories about this platform. And a few day ago I bougt a second hand a4000/030 with 6mb ram and a slow old IDE hd. I installed OS 3.1 and some progs. And I must say it still flyes. It boots in 5 seconds, thats how long a wintel machine uses to fight its way throug bios.

My Amiga has a 100mb boot partition, and 2gb total disk. With windows or Linux I would not use this hd at all. It´s to slow and to small. For my Amiga it´s perfect.

As Amiga OS 4 is based on OS 3.1 I belive that It does not grow to GBs in the convertion. And since I get by with 6mb ram on OS3.1, 128mb will be enough (If not much) for OS4.0.  I personaly have not run win2k or a linux desktop with less than 256 mb ram with pleasure.

OS4 is the potential beginning of somethimng new and great. Amiga want to port it to diffrent hardware. Just imagine how cheap and fun an amiga powered mp3 player/pda/cellular phone with workbench could be.

PS: AmigaOne will run linux, and it uses less power than Intel/amd (less heat=less noise from fans, and less power=smaller electrical bills

[zudobug]

Why do geeks masturbate over the latest gcc update?

(Homer voice) My secret shame  :-(

 :-P

zudobug wrote:

Why do geeks masturbate over the latest gcc update?

(Homer voice) My secret shame  :-(

 :-P

DOH!

[Dagon]

`Cause Amiga makes me happy :-) can you find a better reason?

It`s one of my hobbies, like hearing metal, reading books, seeing movies, programming in C++ etc.
(and wouldn`t be beautiful to do all these things on my beloved operating system? unite all my hobbies under my beloved computer?)

- I like the system structure (C, libs, S, prefs, devs, storage, etc)
- I like that that all my programms and the OS can be in greek and change them in english or italian in no time on the fly. The localization system is just wonderful,  no need to change the whole binary, just make or find a catalog.
- I like that the file system isn`t static, I can put wherever I want my apps, make a partition only for programms and make my own categories such as Painting, music etc, and if I want to move an app in the worst case I`ll have to edit the user-startup.
- I like the way the datatype system works, if you want to create an app you don`t have to do everything from scratch i.e. if you want your program to see a gif image.
- I like the dynamic Ram Disk :-) I dload programms there and unlha them, if I don`t like it I throw it, non need to write on my hd, fragment it or whatever.

And last but not least because Amiga is a part of me. I grew with it, I`ve been using it since the elementary school (since 1989 if I remember correctly)

AmigaOS doesn`t want to take over the world (at least not anytime soon ) it is for Amigans first (and ex-Amigans) and then when it becomes more complete as a choice (more apps like an office package etc.) for the others.

Read my quote why I want Amiga to continue to exist :-) I like to exercise myself in the things which bring to me happiness. :-) And Amiga is one of them. ;-)

(no I don`t think that anybody can find a reason to make someone spend 800 EYPO or 600 EYPO for a new system. Do you think that you could convince a friend of yours to buy a BSD/linux/BeOS box, if BSD/linux/BeOS runned only in AmigaOne/Pegasos for example? and the games of M$ OS? the apps?, Why not buying a PC? or upgrade his current if he already has one? in my example the OS doesn`t run in x86)

[vortexau]

NewRevolution asked:

Yes it would be fun to dust of some old Amiga applications (and games). But how much am I willing to pay for that? $800? I?d rather dust of my old A1200 with my 68030 accelerator card and play with that.

Can anyone out there convince me why I should invest time and money in an attempt to revive Amiga?

IF it would take someone to convince you -- you probally are already satified with your present situation; what-ever it is!

I, don't have to "dust of some old Amiga applications" . . . . I NEVER stopped using Amiga (last 14 years!). My A2000 is 'stuck' at 68060 CPU, PicassoII Display, 2Mb CHIP, 32Mb FAST, and (presently) 4 HDDs totalling 5Gb!
I have my second SCSI Flatbed Scanner, a seven-y-o CD-ROM, and may have to install a USB Card for access to digital camera files!

I'm READY for an upgrade!

 ° No interest in BorgOS -- Mac doesn't give enough "I want to do it MY way" -- Linux is like a house that's NEVER finished!

I think that AmigaOS4 will return that "Loving feeling" so its NOT "gone-gone-gone"! :-)