Any REAL news from the OS4-tour ?

[CodeSmith]

That really is the problem. How can you tell if someone will buy OS4 or not? Many of these people probably will consider it when it ships. We are talking about long-time Amiga users, after all.

True, but you forget what's been happening in the meantime.  For Chronos to go out and buy OS4 and the hardware needed to run it (CSPPC, A-One, whatever), would mean he's admitting that he's also a "Blind Follower of The Name Cult".  I think he'd sooner run Windows XP  :-D

[meerschaum]

Being a Club Amiga member, I am privy to information that most of Hyperion’s detractors are not.

ohhh so the 50 did buy you something the ability to act 'on high' about hearing information any other company would just make public...but in this community bieng what it is...they chose to try to profit from it..

[Hooligan_DCS]

@Uncharted

Hopefully some issues were cleared during the short talk we had on irc.

Time to hit the bed and read further insults in the morning :-D

[Quixote]

jtsiren joined in:

You would gain an enormous amount of respect from people just by saying "sorry, got a bit worked up there - here are the answers". Believe me, people don't expect it, and not all will buy it, but many will love your for it. I've seen it happen a lot of times. It's the humility and achievement through action that buys souls and holds them near. Us loudmouths, well, we don't often get that far.

;-) Actually, I agree with you on this bit; the man who is able to admit his mistakes wins a lot of respect.

:-( On the other hand, Mr. and Mr. Frieden are only human, and have been working very stressful hours lately, as we can only imagine.  They've shown more restraint than many of us here have any right to expect.  

:-D Personally, I think that a round of applause is in order.  Furthermore, I expect that as the tour progresses and we see more of what OS 4.0 can do, a round of applause will be the order of the day.

[z5]

This Morphos - OS4 is just so pathetic. Look at all forums and will see it again and again and again ...

I wonder when is this going to stop?

Oh, and Hooligan, the Friedens have every right not to answer. Kronos is a troll, a morphOS user with no interest in OS4 whatsoever. So why the questions if you are not interested: to troll. Plain and simple. Whatever the answer, it is going to be twisted, reworded and used against them.

@To the Friedens:
Keep up the hard work. One day you will be rewarded for it. Be proud of what you have achieved, no matter what some ppl say (always the same ppl by the way) and keep fighting for what you believe in. I hope that you will be able to really show off what you have done yourselves next weekend in Germany.

[uncharted]

downix wrote:
So you finally accept that MOS used AROS rather than secretly stolen data tapes that Amiga, Inc had hidden in Merlancia's top-security hideout?

So you are saying that former members of Phase 5 ( who later became the authors of MorphOS) were never given access to AOS 3.x source code by Amiga Technologies (or whatever it was called at the time) in the mid-90s?

I'd love to know, because I've never been given a straight answer on this. Is it just rumour or did it actually happen?

@Hooligan

Yep, all sorted.  That's why i prefer IRC to forums :-)

[Quixote]

meerschaum mentioned:

ohhh so the 50 did buy you something the ability to act 'on high' about hearing information any other company would just make public.

;-) Nah, I could do that for free.

[mikeymike]

@ z5

hear, hear.

[DeXXo]

zacman wrote:
>Good questions. It works for me (same as
>IBrowse, which was also mentioned in that thread).

I thought it was meant that Dopus didn't work but
Ibrowse did.

Maybe just a missing library.

That's right. Opus didn't work on my A4000, the other one ran it perfectly (it was propably a missing lib).
Ibrowse did work.

[Rogue]

You did waste your and other people's time with these "you didn't ask nicely, I won't answer" types of messages

Kronos directly picked me for that - blame it on him.

If you think reading my (or Thomas) posts is a waste of time, there is the easy solution to look the other way.

[porneL]

If MOS people think it's OK to use code/icons/whatever from AROS (why reinvent the wheel, after all?), then they should also think it's OK for AmigaOS4 to use code/icons/whatever from AmigaOS3

The problem is that AROS code was written from scratch, in C and is more or less hardware independent while amigaos3 code is targetted for amigas and contains some asm.

[Rogue]

@CodeSmith:

Is Hyperion going to be actively involved (ie someone standing next to one of the machines) in any of the demos?

Thomas and me will be at the Augsburg show next week, though we'll probably only "be there", answering a few questions (if people ask nicely)

[Rogue]

while amigaos3 code is targetted for amigas and contains some asm.

Let's rather say "used to contain". There is little 68k assembler left in the current source tree.

[CodeSmith]

@porneL:
Well, that's good for AROS - but it's MOS that was borrowing from AROS, not the other way around.

Incidentally, there is no way you can write an operating system that is 100% hardware independent - you will always have something that depends on the hardware.  A very important part of an OS's job is to make sure that *applications* are hardware-independent.

Even if you're not counting device drivers as part of the OS, the part of the OS that manages access to interrupts has to know how the interrupt controller works.

[CodeSmith]

@Rogue:

Great to hear that! I really hope someone records and mp3's that Q&A session, cos I won't be able to make it!

BTW, love the new avatar  :-D

[B00tDisk]

mikeymike wrote:
@ FarQuad

AmigaOS for the AmigaOne is no where to be found. That is what I consider the real news.

Do you have a point to make, or do you just like trolling?

Why is that trolling?

(And I say that being a person who couldn't give less of a damn for the fly-in-the-ointment Morph-os)