What's this about a OS4 Pegasos kit?

[KennyR]

For the same reason some people will want an AmigaONE, and regardless of which is the better board, they should be allowed to choose the AmigaONE if they so want.

Indeed so, but I get the feeling some people would buy painted turds if they had the name.

Edit: And the best of luck to people who are buying A1s for logical or personal reasons. But to buy them just because they have the name... it borders on madness. And notice how I changed "only" to "mostly" - it was a wee bit unfair. ;-)

[bloodline]

KennyR wrote:

For the same reason some people will want an AmigaONE, and regardless of which is the better board, they should be allowed to choose the AmigaONE if they so want.

Indeed so, but I get the feeling some people would buy painted turds if they had the name.

Yes, They would :-D

Heheheheheheheh

[Warface]

Quite the reverse, OS4 should be a lot more
BETTER than MOS it being based on previous versions and has not got so much rewritten code from scratch, all though of course there is such in OS4 aswell.

Even more so, as OS4 will run on CyberstormPPCs first, which will provide superior compatibility to AmigaONE/Pegasos. The drawback is the speed factor though. A 604 is much slower than a G3/G4.
The situation will change with OS4 on AmigaONE - better speed/worse compatibility.

My bet that the two will have different shortcomings (compared to their 60-70% similar feature lists), as priorities/opportunities slightly differ in the two development group.

[bbrv]

hummmm...

...reading some more here.  :-?

There are many misconceptions, but we understand how they came about. :-)

Let's start at square one. (!)  

Picture a campfire with a bunch of cavemen sitting around....

1, We need wood.  
2. We need fire.
3. We need something to eat.

Put into the vernacular...:-o

1. hardware
2. software
3. applications (marshmellows, yes/turds,no)

We are making *wood* at Genesi and so is Apple (BTW!).  It is our main business.  We hope to sell it to lots of cavepeople.  Want to buy some?!  :-)

Anyway, some folks come and then some more and they all want to do something different...GREAT!   Everyone should be free to choose what they want to do!  Seven or eight different groups take their wood and go off and build their own fires...

Now!

What's for dinner!?!?  We are hungry!!!

(or if we take our favorite PegPong ping from yesterday: WATTS HAPPENING!  :lol:  This of course relates to a Don Cox comment about processing power verses processing speed and the difference between POWER (Power equals the ratio of work to time) and SPEED (which is just that ...pretty mindless, huh?!).

What's cooking!!!

That is the question!   8-)

You guys with us?!

END OF PART ONE   :-D

[SlimJim]

@bbrv
 
I must be thick or lacking some special humour-DNA, because to me your post makes very little sense.
.
SlimJim

[amigamad]

ndeed so, but I get the feeling some people would buy painted turds if they had the name.

how well are they painted and who is making them . :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D

[redrumloa]

@amigamad

Cheers, I didn't mean for that to sound strong. :-)

[KennyR]

bbrv...Well, problem is that your wood is nice and dry, but it is getting wetter while your people are struggling to make fire.

[bbrv]

(stretch a little SlimJim!  :-)  )

BEGINNING OF PART II

Ho Hum...

It is starting to grow dark.  Lots of funny noises about, it is getting cold and where is dinner!

Oh yes, applications.

Wait!

Back to fire...we sell wood remember!  :-)  Build your fire -- however you want!  You can build a Linux fire, a BeBeQ fire, or even a fire for just Amigas! Us, *wood* guys, do not care!!!

OK, have we got that fire going yet?  (KennyR is really getting hungry now! And, many others too! )

You know, it is sort of hard in the beginning.  You have to start with small sticks and stuff, have some patience and keep a close eye on things until the fire begins to work all by itself...;-)  It sure can be hard if the wood is wet or the wind blows in the wrong direction, but well, those things happen.  It is *life* !  :-)

GeeWhiz, still no food!

[uncharted]

redrumloa wrote:
@Uncharted

No more like people probably didn't know t here were any left. Genesi' own webshops and Phoenix all sold out of their allotment. I had no idea any dealers had stock left! That's up to the dealer to promote their stock. :-o ,

Also I bet now that the cats out of the bag, the remaining stock will be gone real quick :-D

But people have been mentioning that dealer X and dealer Y have had stock remaining for months now, that's the point.  

Every time anyone has even romotely expressed an interest in the Pegasos, theres always at least one person who pops up with a "So-and-so have a few left".  Anyone who has truely wanted an Peg1 board and who has expressed that interest publically would have been told this.

Hell I've been "informed" this on several occasions myself, and I'm really not that interested.  (AOS 4 on there and I'd consider further)

[zacman]

>But people have been mentioning that dealer X and
>dealer Y have had stock remaining for months now,
>that's the point.

For months now? Maybe you have missed that the
Pegasos wasn't available for some months... so how
could they have boards for months?!

[uncharted]

bbrv wrote:

Hi Unchartered...:-)  We did sell out. Perhaps, Gunne overestimated the opportunity in his market.  OK, no problem.  Now, we are going to help him out.  What is the big deal?  Do you understand?

You need to look at this from a larger perspective!
 

I never said I had a problem, I just found it odd that for something that had sold out there were still units left over at several different dealers for a few months after "selling out"

Erm, it looks the same however you look at it.  A "sold out" product didn't in fact sell out.  (as in every produced unit was sold to an end user)

[bbrv]

HeyHey!  Yeah Baby! Cowabunga!  (sound cavemanish?)

...and you Unchartered -- get with the program here!!!  This is a thread about fire and wood now!!!

Things are starting to heat up around here.  Whew!  :-)  

Back to the story...

Lots of cavefolks are afraid of the dark.  Good thing there is a little light now.  Cool!  (whoops!) Hot stuff! (that is! :-D)

Anyway, WATTS HAPPENING!!!! (power vs. JUST speed remember!  We are civilized and cook our food, no raw stuff for us.  There IS *work* involved...;-)  )

Errr....what is for dinner?!  

Well tonight we are cooking a mastodon! (it is a caveman thing)

That is right -- a big, enormous, furry thing! (you know, a hairy elephant with BIG teeth).

It is certainly more than all of us can eat in a year or two! How the heck are we going to do it on this puny fire?!?!?!

More FIRE!!!  More Wood!! More Fire!!  

We have a few mastodonbergers to cook and lots of aspirations!!!  :-D

Editors note:  The way to eat a mastodon is one bite at a time.

---POPCORN BREAK NOW---

[uncharted]

OK I'll bite - I'm wait for the AROS ISO to download so have nowt better to do.

zacman wrote:

For months now? Maybe you have missed that the
Pegasos wasn't available for some months... so how
could they have boards for months?!

A quick check reveals that on the 28th of Feb there was a news item with the title "Pegasos Sold Out" on this very site.  Now if the state eductaion system hasn't failed here I make that a little over 3 MONTHS ago. See?

@BBRV

It's Uncharted (or Andy if you'd rather) by the way not Unchartered.  That sounds like mine and Red's freakish love child, which I'd rather not think about :lol:

Um, yeah, wood, fire, ok, is this something to do with the Pegasos' underlying technology, because if it is I've got a new technology called "Levers" that you may want to buy off me for a nice sum of money.  I've also got a new "Pulley" technology which improves multimedia thoughput. :-D

[bbrv]

...and now a commercial break from our sponsor!

PegPower!  The Pegasos is for Me!  The Pegasos is Cool Computing!!!  PegPerfect!  PegProvidential!  PegPegPeg!

Could it be like the FIRST commercial?

Think about it...

Cavemen sitting around a fire at the end of a long day of mastodon hunting.  They are tired. They are lonely (otherwise why are they sitting around the campfire talking to other sweaty, tired, smelly guys?!) and...

WHAMO!

Cavegirl!  (or said another way...Hola Guapa! Boing! Boing! Boing!  :-D )

"We have fresh fruit and vegetables at our fire over there..."

Sound like the first TV and something else right in the middle of everything -- a commercial?!

Very well, in the search for fruits and vegetables (and maybe something else), we just lost the attention of a few cavemen!  Hey, come back here!  :-)

BIBLICAL NOTE: It was a fruit that Eve had, wasn't it?!  

Yes, an Apple no less!  Now, think about that and get back here!

-----End of POPCORN BREAK!-----

[odin]

I don't need wood (esp not 'made' wood), I use dried dung to make a fire. :-P

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@bbrv:

One thing has always intrigued me. You mostly sign with bbrv. Does that mean that you and rv always share  the same opinions and views?

(And this is not ment in a negative manner or anything).