Lets Boost Up Amiga

[Starke]

SteveSMS:

Yeah I did, that would explain her raving afterwoods.

But now shes more like an EX, with benefits.

I enjoy the peace I get now, With her, it was always, can u, can u, can u, and I was like, I gotta do stuff for me too.

I got a lot of ideas in my head, som already have been carried out. But, this posting is not about my life, its about ours.

Cheers. 8-)

[TheMud]

@Starke ... U joined January the 23. and already 77 posts.. :-O ... You got
to much sparetime *LOL*

But what fuc.... new computer are U talking about... There wont come a
new computer from Amiga. - And OS4 .?. Well... If and wenn released to ALL,
and not only the old A1 users we only got a motherboard... No computer...

And without a COMPLETE computer, there will only be a few 1000 or 100's
that will buy it... and thats the same thing as being dead... No familiy man
with money on the bank will buy something uncomplete. People with money
want to buy the real thing... not some "build your new computer" thing...

My version of iMac has cost me 1500 €  (1950 $). I would pay that for an
complete uptodate amiga as well... But there wont be any... Eventhough I
wish it would come.... But then as the iMac... With Monitor and a clever
design with all build in, automatic and secure online update and and and...

I dont see it coming... long live my A1200 *LOL*

BTW -> Who on earth would nowadays want an OS4 that doesnt update
itself withou any effort... For NORMAL users... ... Even Windows Update
automaticly with Vista (puke) <-- Dont like windows

[jorkany]

Starke,
   To condense things I'm going to reply to several of your posts in this one.

As the Amiga OS4, when it finally comes out on the New Amiga Computer, is meant to be AWESOME, Website here:
http://os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php%3Foption=content&task=blogsection&id=6&Itemid=30.html

I've looked before, I noted nothing AWESOME about OS4. Mind explaining exactly what it is you think is so AWESOME about it?

Why dont we all spend 50 bucks, use our design programs, to create some cards, that display some important web pages, like the one above, allowing people who may then take some interest to atleast read about the new Amiga OS4, and then print em out peoples.

How is this more effective than having the information available globally on several websites? Point being, OS4 isn't exactly news - it's been kicking around for about six years now. Any interest it's likely to generate has already been generated.

I Say, We need to do this, atleast so people are informed. Do you even realise the amount of people out there that decide to choose a Mac, coz they dont know about Amiga, or what an AMiga is.

Suppose for a moment they did find out about OS4 - why would they buy into a system that does *less*? That is, if they even could buy into OS4 - don't know if you've noticed but you can't buy it, even if you wanted to.

Also, with OS4, I am more so aiming to make more people aware that Amiga is an excellent choice over any PC, especiallay IBM or Microsoft orientated pieces of Equipement(SH*T).

Excellent choice in what way? Can you give specific examples, or is it just a "feeling"? By the way, not sure if you knew this but not only were IBM processors used in the AmigaOne, IBM got out of the PC business quite some time ago.

Are you Atheist?

if we all do this, I am sure people will start choosing Amiga emulators over windows sh*t,

Can you cite some reasons why someone would choose Amiga over Windows? I mean, you're going to be trying to convince people, so you had better have some reasons.

as well as Amiga then noticing more of a change, and then in turn, perhaps more of a need to hurry it up and Build there new Amiga computer with OS4

Amiga Inc. does not build computers, and they are not responsible for distributing OS4.

That in the end, Amiga does come out with its new Amiga computer and OS4 in Early April as said, what if their strategy was to take the market by surprise, for eg. suddenly not only new Amiga computers come out, but also other Electronical devices? Etc. etc.

You mean what if they were to compete against Apple as well as the PC industry?

Also, Who's to say that, if all of the Amiga community groups, started to distribute these cards with good and valid internet websites written on them, that people wouldnt start thinking, well, its only $85 bucks, for three dvd's worth of stuff, and various emulated Amiga OS, lets just get it and see four ourselves.

What is stopping them from doing that as things are today? The Amiga emulators didn't just show up last week, Cloanto has been selling their package for years now. NONE of what you're talking about is news. If masses of people were going to have an interest in Amiga, it would have happened by now.

Aside from that, you still have yet to explain specifically what advantages the unwashed masses would enjoy by switching to Amiga or OS4. Don't forget, you're going to have to explain how they can maintain the same level of computing that they have gotten used to; failing that you must explain why giving up things simply for the sake of using Amiga or OS4 is an advantage.

I have a better idea, why don't you go out and find a few people who use Windows, Linux or OS X and show them your Amiga emulator and see how they react. Don't forget to show them how they can do everything they currently do in their OS of choice today, or explain to them why they can just as easily do without it. Let us know how many of them switch.

[Starke]

Jorkany:

My, my, thats a lot of blabber, Ive converted two people already.
NOW:
How many have you converted in the past week?

Let me geuss, Zilch.

So do not Judge the Judge.

Cheers

P.S. I cant be bothered debating this {bleep} no more, So Im posting a post either today or tommorow on what may be able to be done to help AMIGA.

If you dont like the fact that someone in the AMIGA community is so determined, despite the fact that the AMiga OS emulator isnt as good as OS4 is meant to be, but yet OS4 can not be used as an emulator, then I think:

Im gonna write it in my final posting, where everyone In the Amiga.org can view it, write to it, whatever.

BUT:

Any negativity, leave it to urselves, and sell you Amiga immedaitely, as your being negative, you may as well not have one. Coz ddep down inside, if you wanted AMIGA to succeed again in any way shape or form, then you would think of positives.

OVER AND OUT.

 8-)

[Starke]

Jorkany:

By the way, not everyone out there is aware about AMIGA.

THIS is a fact.

As the two a converted, didnt even know Amiga had made new OS's and that Amiga even had such a website, like Hyperion working for them, or whatever.

POINT:
Most people in todays worl, have not heard of Amiga, and those that have, are either nerds, or long time users, or used to own one when they were young, or back in the day

HENCE:
We nee to make amiga more aware to the wider community, we also need to have Amiga Inc and Hyperion join up with bigger companies, so that when Amiga does become more aware in the wider community, it will be more worth it for people to buy a complete system. 8-)

[dammy]

My, my, thats a lot of blabber, Ive converted two people already.
NOW:
How many have you converted in the past week?

Converted?  What type of cult scam are you running?  Oh wait, you wanted $50 from the marks.  Gotcha.

Dammy

[Starke]

GO TO AMIGA NEEDS YOUR HELP.

Thats it from me with any other posts Ive made, not interested, Im more interested in help, for the Amiga platform and maybe computers.

[coldfish]

And so ends another A to Z, fruit-loop cycle.

A. Noob comes in with poorly researched and even more poorly articulated revival "ideas".

B. Gets shot down in various ways by resident sane people.

C. Noob ignores all rational arguments, rants a bit more repeating previously poorly articulated "ideas" providing no additional clarity.

D. Get shot down some more by sane folk.

E-X. C and D repeat if necessary until...

Y. Noob finally storms out leaving righteous final message in ALL CAPs.

Z. Forum residents, LOL!

The End!
...till the next one.  (sigh)

ps: "I should have deleted too, but couldn't help it!"

[Starke]

COLDFISH:

No Insult Intended, only reality towards you,

YOU are a ********************************wit.

IF you wouldve read what I wrote, there is no chance Im giving up and leading people on here. I wanna get this Happening. But if you wanna make yourself feel good by trying to make my name go down, THEN your no good for the AMIGA Community, so Piss off from the Amiga community site, and sell everything AMiga in your house.
(EDIT)
Sorry Coldfish,I didnt mean above totally, But dont assume anything. I dont like your vague insults, And Im a blunt type of person, usually, but Ive tried keeping it clean in this site. I wish to find bigger and better ways to help Amiga, instead of just buying some more products here and there.  SO DO not say someone given up, only coz they didnt post in a particular post anymore, AS I SAID. AMIGA NEED YOUR HELP, is the only posting of concern now. I will delete these posts after Ive gotten the time to read through them again, as some people here have already written comments that may help the cause. OK)
(END EDIT)

Go To AMIGA NEEDs YOUR HELP.(My newest post)(intended for everyone to help to try and get Amiga Flowing again.)

I just cant be bothered with all the negative slother, and I seem to be attracting the wrong people, ones like you who couldnt give a shet about AMIGA's future.
(EDIT)
(If this isnt true, then please do not try and put me down, I will not burn, Not until Ive given it my best shot to help Amiga, so accept it)

By the way, You got an Amiga 4000t???

Let me know, as you wont be needing it anymore, after all, your not helping here are you?? OK, so sell it all.
(EDIT)
(Now this line is what happens when I get irrational, due to people assuming they know me, when yet clearly, I am not going to go away until I recieve help from the community, on what we all can do to help AMiga)

Kind Regards

To the moderators and the Main man Wayne, as well as the Amiga community, who keeps this forum alive for all genuine Amiga users.

Very Kind of you guys to have an open forum. I am trying to find ways to help Amiga. hence my last posting. AMIGA NEEDS YOUR HELP, go to it, its in the suggestions area.

 8-)  8-)  8-)

[Flashlab]

@Starke

Could you please try to keep this forum clean and don't open multiple threads where the topic is the same?

[Mucker]

Lets all calm down lads, this will only work if we all pull together.

Amiga is in a {bleep} state, without .org members turning on each other

[bobamu]

let's think happy thoughts , about kittens!

=^.^=

This is a result of not being able to take this thread seriously.

I think we really all have seen it all before, hence the large part of the reaction.

[Mucker]

I agree, people all mean well, but it`s all bin done to death old boy, untill a major player gets involved and puts machines on shelves in the public eye, the audiance aint gona sit up, listen and grow.

 :shrug:

[Bug_racer]

Im with Starke , sitting and waiting aint gonna achieve anything . Yeah a big player needs to get involved . One day they may , a crowd only starts when there is something interesting to look at !

Starke , dude , your enthuisiam is pretty much how I feel . The Amiga did it for me years ago and will always remain a computer system that digged deep into my mind and made me happy . It may be out dated with lack of hardware and software but its still here and still alive . I think everyone realises the bleak situation but it can be reversed , slowly with a few people like Starke and once people start taking notice it will grow . Thats usually when a big player will take notice !
I suggest in the short term we post videos of old games and anything that relates to the Amiga on You tube and places of high traffic . You need to re-kindle old sparks . I have probably half a dozen mates with old Amiga 500's still in cupboards and attics and stuff . We need these out and in use !!!

You have my support ! Keep the enthuisiasm growing !

[Starke]

BUGRACER:

No Problem,

While Im typing I may as well let everyone know here with the data Ive collected, I have recently found out that Amiga Inc Is not supporting Bill Gates. So whomever made that comment, it is wrong.
SO
This now changes things completely in where we should be helping. I believe we need to Help Amiga Inc yes, but we also should consider talking some sense into Hyperion, and not to go to court with Amiga inc over something that just isnt worth it for either company, nor the Amiga community.

Also, Mr.Hardware
http://www.mrhardwarecomputers.com/index.htm?85,95
I think it is still possible to retrieve systems here. I'll keep you posted on the informations and feed back I retrieve from him, and various other dealers.

I do know for a fact, although not as new hardware as one can recieve from MrHardware, yet alone hardly a variety, but AmigaInnovations.com, for those that would like the Amiga emulator OS on their PC systems, go here, 85 bucks for premium edition, as forementioned, well worth the buy, 1cd, 2*dvd's worth of Amiga video footage. Mr.Hayne also on it.

Cheers 8-)  8-)

[Hyperspeed]

I am enthusiastic about kittens!

Hey, we all need to chill... go snow snorkelling or something.