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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2007, 05:34:02 AM »
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No Insult intended, but anything is possible, we all know this, but if people like you dont want to admit that there is always a chance to change the past, ie, look at germany now compared to after ww2, then, they must be ignorant.
 



Ah, so your plan is for the offices of Amiga Inc to be split in two, occupied by the armed forces of the USA, UK, France and USSR (well, Russian Federation now, I suppose) for 50 years, receive a massive injection of World Bank funds, be the primary potential battleground for the land component of WWIII, become the manufacturing pinnacle for automobile technology, be reunited into one corporate entity, and produce food & wine of questionable value?

If only I'd realised that at first.  Sounds like a piece of piss - you're right, I'll get onto your suggestion straight away.


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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2007, 05:36:34 AM »
I've seen a gazillion 'New Amiga Computers!!!!111!' over the last 13 years been announced. From the Walker to the A/Box to the BoXer. And what has the net result been? A bunch of buggy rebadged PPC boards running OS4 and a bunch of other PPC boards running MorphOS. Woop-dee-doo.

And after 13 years somebody announces another 'New Amiga Computer!!!111!' which will take over the world, solve worldhunger and give me a fluffy bunny?

Time for a realitycheck.

-edit- As for why that webshop is telling you the fuk that? I don't know. Sure, there might be finally someone able to deliver another PPC board which can run OS4, but I'll believe it when I see it. And then what? How will you sell the world (that is, the world outside Amigaland) this PPC board+OS4?

-editedit-
What I'm trying to say, enjoy the various Amiga-platforms for what they are: cool hobby platforms. Don't expect the second coming of Jay Miner anytime soon from any company, especially if that company wears the name 'Amiga'. Like I said, commercially as dead as a dodo.

That webshop you linked is a nice example: it lists exactly 24 Amiga products, of which one is a T-Shirt ;-).

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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2007, 05:49:32 AM »
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It's a Colonial Viper Mk II, not a "jet".
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Actually, isn't that ship in your avatar from Project X? =)

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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2007, 05:52:48 AM »
My Main Man, ODIN:

Not dead like a dodo.
Amiga is not completely dead, do you understand now, If you are all so dedicated to you Hobby, and Amiga and Hyperion are doing OS4, then surely you can see the light?

If we all started to do our bit, and started creating some excellent stuff to run on the Amiga platforms, then perhaps in time, Amiga will be more so again.

But like this, all of you sittin on your asses, expecting some giant Corporation to buy Amiga Inc and perhaps Hyperion too I suppose is what your thinking, then thats wrong.

Would you help your Family if they were in need yes. However you probably wouldnt do it for a friend. I WOULD.

So Amiga is my friend, so I am going to help it, with or without this Amiga community, but it'd be a shame, as if we all were like a flock of fish, we would manage to grow into bigger fish, instead of dying and waiting for the new born to take over.

Cheers,

And I will commence when I get home from work again, to talk to all you guys, and tell you more of my propositions as well as all the things we could be doing to help Amiga to be recognised as a threat again.

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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2007, 05:56:46 AM »
True friends know when their friends are suffering and in dire need of euthanasia...

That said, my A4000 is far from dead :-D.

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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2007, 05:57:30 AM »
By the way ODIN, that webshop is Australian based, which means, ofcourse you wont see many products, as Amiga is not a KULT here.

Whereas Amiga is still flourishing in UK, Germany, and still going in America and Spain. Ofcourse various other parts of Europe also.

But In Australia, forget it, If I manage to get all my freinds and mates to support Amiga, that would make up most of the other Amiga users.

If I am wrong, which I must be, Id expect more than just 30 people Using amigas in Australia, then where the hell are they?
Why arent we all giving it our all for this Company. We know what it can do, and with backing from people all over the world helping, it will be better than various other current companies in assets.
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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2007, 06:01:06 AM »
The Amiga isn't flourishing anywhere. If it was there would be hundreds, nay thousands of visitors at usergroup meetings and Worlds of Amigas.

The last show I was at here in The Netherlands was a farce, a couple of years ago in Rotterdam. Only a few hundred folks turned up. Still, I can say that I saw OS4 before I died ;-).

However there might be one bright future ahead for Amiga-minded devices: retro-gaming. And the Messiah in that department is His Holiness Dennis :-D.

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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2007, 06:05:51 AM »
ODIN,

I follow THOR, and my heritage also.
On that note, check out German websites of Amigas, some of them will show you Amiga nuts going to functions. At these functions there are thousands of Amiga enthusiasts.
DO NOT tell me it is not flourishing, assuming is no good, I may have used the wrong word though.
REPHRASE:
I meant, Heaps of people are still using amigas and creating things for it, what if we all done this, but also decidd to donate towards Amiga instead of just a website.
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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2007, 06:15:45 AM »
Right.

I'm just gonna paraphrase InTheSand now and say "I should have deleted too, but couldn't help it!" Alenppc basically said everything that I meant to say in his first post in this thread, only much better than I have so far ;-).

-Dammit, I really can't help it-
So point me to these functions with thousands of Amiga-fans.

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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2007, 06:56:24 AM »
Starke, while your enthusiasm is all good 'n that, you should really brush up on your recent Amiga history (5-10years) to get a clearer understanding of where things are really at, (as opposed to where you -think- they are).
 
It's like you've turned up to the OS4/A1 party, stone cold sober at 5am.  The few remaing people are tired and irritable and just want to go home to their -classic- Amigas.

I think Dwayne may have been having a friendly joke at your expense, when he told you "early April" ie, April 1st.  

If so, good for him! ;-)

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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2007, 07:14:09 AM »
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No one is suggesting that Amiga is going to to vie for for world domination with the likes of microshaft or crapple, but starke has a point.  Defeatism is a self-fulfilling prophecy.  I don't think its an outrageous suggestion to ask a.org memebers to (gasp) promote the Amiga brand.  Whats outrageous is the banal, predictable, rude and downright negative response such a request elicits from supposed fellow Amiga "supporters".  Do us all a favor and take your negativity over to wintel.org..    
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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2007, 07:18:25 AM »
ODIN:

I will gladly post the links to you, but I am going to Training now. It is 6:20pm here.
I just quickly logged on at home to let you know that I havent forgotten about your request, but traffic was a Bitsch to get home today.

Cheers  8-)
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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2007, 07:28:12 AM »
YEAH! Finally, someone who understood what Ive been trying to say from the word GO!

Thank you kindly SIR StopTheGop!

You are now Officially an Amiga man through and through, if no one knew that already.

And yeah, you make a point too, why are they all so negative, I am 25, A bit of younger blood amongsth the midst here, and all Im getting is negativity, when yet I can see there still is a potential, no matter how small the glimmer may be, its still glimmering, this is evident.

Unfortunately, as much as Id like to stay here and give people sample links who are in doubt and so forth, I must be off to badminton in 5 minutes, and I still gotta get ready.

So I will LEAVE ALL THE REAL FELLOW SUPPORTERS OF AMIGA WITH THIS:

GO HARD!! And never say die until something is no longer being used at all, of which 0s3.9 isnt too old either, Emulation Yes, But still, Imagine AMIGA on all pc type Platforms as a standalone OS.
Now that we surely regain some type of power for the AMiga Company.

Either way, I am full of Ideas and Im going to try and carry them all out for Amiga, since Amiga seem to have the need of some type of Support, Im going to give it to them.

If you all do the same, who knows what the future would bring, Maybe Amiga will be a much bigger platform, instead of just enthusiasts.

To think, Ive done all this in 1 week and 3 days, 2 days with this Amiga.Org. I am glad to be a man who expresses his thoughts openly. 8-)
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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2007, 10:36:27 PM »
In all fairness, if amiga had been headed up by the likes of bill gates, this sight wouldnt be hear, and in its place would be pc.org.

If some one walks into pcworld, they ask for that, a pc. Not a Mac, or Amiga. Beause it`s the 2 letters thats ingrained on every punters mind. People are sheep!!!!

They don`t care if it`s an ibm or a sony. All they can say is pc, intel, how cheep. They are not intrested in the amount of times it crashes in a session, or the operating system.

And It`s that problem we have to get around.

Kids are the future, target them!!! Get Amiga DE out on xbox, ps3 or that nintendo weeee thingy. The ranks will start to swell again.
In the end, there can be only 1....
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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2007, 11:09:30 PM »
good god, what is the deal with these threads? Amiga INC is just another company. If they put out a product worth buying I'll spend my money, if they don't, screw 'em. I'm as much of an Amiga fan as the next guy but i'm not all religious about it.

Props to AROS
 

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Re: Lets Boost Up Amiga
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 25, 2007, 11:18:43 PM »
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If some one walks into pcworld, they ask for that, a pc. Not a Mac, or Amiga


There's no second hardware source for running MacOS X, hence they have issues in the business world.

The current Mactel is basically UEFI(Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) enabled Intel X86 PC with a specific Apple TPM. Apple's PCs(both PPC and X86) are manufactured by ODMs like Foxconn(WinFast, Leadtek) and ASUS.  

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They are not intrested in the amount of times it crashes in a session

Any applications in AmigaOS can bring the whole system down.

Rouge userland application doesn’t bring down Windows NT/2K/XP system. (BSOD) “Blue Screen of Death” in NT/2K/XP are mostly caused by kernel land code(e.g. driver) going rouge.

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And It`s that problem we have to get around.

Haven't you leant anything from VHS vs Betamax wars?

One of the problems with Amiga Inc and Apple is their business models.

Using StarWars analogy i.e. the clone army (unified X86 PC hardware vendors) defeated the Jedi Knights.      

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