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Re: AMIGA OS is dead and so every other OS not being VISTA.. check this out
« Reply #59 on: December 20, 2006, 09:40:39 PM »
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And Amiga? It will last and last and last and last....


Amen!
I dont see anyone hanging onto there old 486 PC's  ;-)
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Re: AMIGA OS is dead and so every other OS not being VISTA.. check this out
« Reply #60 on: December 20, 2006, 09:40:43 PM »
Ok...the original post was vitri-trollic

but....he's not far wrong with "so every other OS not being VISTA"

ATM....there isn't an OS that "It just does it!" except Windoze

I've installed and painfully struggled with 5 different ux's this year, just trying to do stuff....in each case, it takes a patch or different conf setting or just doesn't or needs so much time that my coffee gets cold cutting and pasteing how to's to get the dam Ux working with whatever. Its got to a point now where I'm emailing people who develop just to move forward.

Yet Windoze did it out of the box, one or two clicks and it works, sometimes it also needs a patch but the patch uninstalls the previous version fixes the problem without needing to open notepad or a shell or do anywhere near the amount of poking that Ux does.

And that really sums up Windoze Vista and Ux and any other OS. It takes time to get linux to just do, when Windoze just does.

Ok...I know that if you are familar with the Ux OS's its just vi away but any OS that requires that amount of poking is not for just "users" is it and that really defines an Good OS, how much does the user have to do to get the thing done. Windoze at the moment and even by that video does it and has won it all bar the shouting.

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Re: AMIGA OS is dead and so every other OS not being VISTA.. check this out
« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2006, 09:43:38 PM »
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ATM....there isn't an OS that "It just does it!" except Windoze

Yes there is.

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Re: AMIGA OS is dead and so every other OS not being VISTA.. check this out
« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2006, 09:53:51 PM »
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Yes there is.
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Now for me, I haven't got a mac to comment and none of my boxes can run it natively. Maybe if it did I could agree :)

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Re: AMIGA OS is dead and so every other OS not being VISTA.. check this out
« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2006, 09:57:31 PM »
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Amen!
I dont see anyone hanging onto there old 486 PC's  ;-)


Don't know if you've been following the Minimig thread but last night I was doing the laundry (has to be done every now and then) and was thinking about that little machine. And what came to mind? I thought about the concept probably being able to.... impersonate an old IBM PC. ;-)
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Re: AMIGA OS is dead and so every other OS not being VISTA.. check this out
« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2006, 10:03:00 PM »
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Don't know if you've been following the Minimig thread but last night I was doing the laundry (has to be done every now and then) and was thinking about that little machine. And what came to mind? I thought about the concept probably being able to.... impersonate an old IBM PC. ;-)


Its been already done.......

Samsung UMPC !  ;)

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got it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY1pcdPbgcc

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Re: AMIGA OS is dead and so every other OS not being VISTA.. check this out
« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2006, 10:08:37 PM »
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I dont see anyone hanging onto there old 486 PC's


And if they do, they would never admit it!  PC enthusiasts are adroit at forgetting their past.  Have you ever gone into a PC shop looking for parts for your Amiga, asking something like "Excuse me, do you have any used 3DFX PCI video cards or 8M single sided non-edo SIMMs?", only to be met with a blank stare as if you'd just handed him a jar of bile?  "Thats old."
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Re: AMIGA OS is dead and so every other OS not being VISTA.. check this out
« Reply #66 on: December 21, 2006, 08:07:12 AM »
The problem here is people thinks Amiga are still productive and have a future.. Amiga can have a future only if Microsoft or Apple will buy it.
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Hi Chrizz,

Can you elaborate on your thoughts ? One line responses are not helping us to understand what you are trying to tell us.
You must understand that this is a site for people that still enjoy using old computers. Think nostalgia. Understand that our machines are 10-20 years old. Understand a PC of that age was consigned to the scrap heap 3 years after it was built.
The MicroSoft business model is based on making you buy a new PC by making the old one obsolete every time they make a new OS. Combine this with draconian DRM with more in the pipeline, and you may want to move away from it. I suggest you buy an Amiga. The guys here will assist you in your quest for enlightenment  :lol:
 

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« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2006, 08:10:44 AM »
When Amiga was in fashion noone cared about computers. Computers have replaced TV, shops etc, you have to understand time has changed and Amiga is not able to deliver.


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Marketing use? Get real, cool clips won't help push more Vista PC's. They're the only real OS supplier anyway and joe sixpacks isn't gonna buy a Mac/install Linux regardless.
 

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Re: AMIGA OS is dead and so every other OS not being VISTA.. check this out
« Reply #68 on: December 21, 2006, 08:16:01 AM »
That's under the browser. What will Amiga fans do when online shops like Amazon will start to use this kind of ui?
Complain that you can do on Amiga too? Yes maybe.. but Amiga doesn't even carry mozilla.
I have no problem with people using Amiga as nostalgia machines, I would probably set up one just for the fun of it.. but you must face the truth, Amiga is obsolete.

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« Reply #69 on: December 21, 2006, 08:18:14 AM »
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Also, how is WPF - Windows Presentation Foundation (layer) an app?  :roll:


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« Reply #70 on: December 21, 2006, 08:19:36 AM »
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Amazing! now my 68060 csppc Amiga runs circles around your machine in terms of multi tasking and boot time  :-D


Your machine does not deliver.
 

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Re: AMIGA OS is dead and so every other OS not being VISTA.. check this out
« Reply #72 on: December 21, 2006, 08:40:28 AM »
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What will Amiga fans do when online shops like Amazon will start to use this kind of ui?


Not enter to the site.I intend to avoid as if they were the devil all these flash sites even with my coreduo laptop.so i will avoid all the sites that have this ui that like flash probably will be slow, resource hungry and the only real advantage will be eye candy, and like flash you will end found more information on a text only web page than on a flash powered page

and about your trolling about amiga being dead.You will be probably socked to know that even 8 bit computer like msx and comodore 4 have new peripherals, new hardware and new software even today in 2006.
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« Reply #73 on: December 21, 2006, 08:43:48 AM »
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and about your trolling about amiga being dead.You will be probably socked to know that even 8 bit computer like msx and comodore 4 have new peripherals, new hardware and new software even today in 2006.


Look, I know. I have a c64 myself. That being said Amiga does not deliver. When OS4 will be out it will be obsolete already.
 

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Re: AMIGA OS is dead and so every other OS not being VISTA.. check this out
« Reply #74 from previous page: December 21, 2006, 09:14:02 AM »
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The problem here is people thinks Amiga are still productive and have a future.. Amiga can have a future only if Microsoft or Apple will buy it.


Productive? Hell yes, I write letters on it, browse the web and do a lot of other stuff which is very productive; TO ME.

And why should Amiga be bought to have a future? You are misinterpreting the classic Amiga to be an alive computerplatform, it's not. It's only being kept alive by tons of users who invent new things everyday (both software AND hardware) to keep their 20 year old hardware pace up a bit with modern technology.

Browsing the web with an A1000? Possible.
Doing the same with an 8088 XT? Hell no.


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When Amiga was in fashion noone cared about computers. Computers have replaced TV, shops etc, you have to understand time has changed and Amiga is not able to deliver.


Noone cared about computers in the 80's? Were you even born then?

So I understand you are one of those social life-ridden people who do everything on their computers.
Replaced tv's? I prefer sitting on my comfortable couch watching the news, rather then sitting on a chair at my desk.
Replaced shops? Maybe. It's nice to have the ease to order books etc. online, but I prefer going to a bookstore, to browse through the shelves in which you can see far more at one blink of an eye. I also rather have not delivered my groceries by some unknown young kid who races around in a van, breaking eggs and otherwise randomly abusing my food.

Not able to deliver? See first part of this post. My Amiga delivers. If it can't do stuff that I want, I will use another computer for it, Mac or Linux or whatever, maybe even Windows. It's a HOBBY machine, and it's way cool to see that it can do things that weren't even invented until AFTER Amiga's death.


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That's under the browser. What will Amiga fans do when online shops like Amazon will start to use this kind of ui?


Maybe some Amiga programming freak will eventually make it possible. Until that time we are happy to use Mac or Linux (or MorphOS, AROS when they will have the same possibilities).

Or I'll just go out (fresh air is good for you!) to a bookstore.


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Complain that you can do on Amiga too? Yes maybe.. but Amiga doesn't even carry mozilla.
I have no problem with people using Amiga as nostalgia machines, I would probably set up one just for the fun of it.. but you must face the truth, Amiga is obsolete.


NOW you're starting to get it, at least in the first part of this reply. It's NOSTALGIA that drives us to use the Amiga. And for nostalgic reasons we will use AmigaOS 4 and 5 if they will ever see the light of day.

The Amiga is far from obsolete.
Yes, the platform is commercially dead (apart from a few new parts sold here and there to keep our machines alive).
Yes, it can't do a lot of things other platforms CAN do (java, flash, SSL secured login and whatever).
Yes, new pc's and Macs have better graphics, sound, speed and random other possibilities.

So?


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Your machine does not deliver.


Yes it does. You're just completely missing the point of why we use Amiga's.

And that's the last (serious) reply I will give in this thread. Normally I can't be bothered to reply seriously to trolling, but for some reason I got annoyed with this thread.



And stop f***ing multi posting. Ever heard of copy & paste? Or is that obsolete in Windows Vista as well these days?
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