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Offline Kay

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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #59 from previous page: May 31, 2003, 05:43:49 AM »
@magnetic:

Ah, okay then, how about this: I have the next two months off (having my last exam today :-)), so I'll spend that time posting on every Pegasos related thread, telling everybody "the truth" about:
*Bill Buck
*The MOS community
*The Pegasos platform's chances of survival
After all, this is "the truth" about the Pegasos, so I will be completely on-topic and just doing my duty every time I warn people against getting involved with the platform.

Then you just tell me when it gets tiresome, and I'll continue doing it anyway.

Kay
 

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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #60 on: May 31, 2003, 09:36:25 AM »
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*notice noone from Hyperion posted to this thread* *also notice how Hyperion's name is not associated with the "OS 4 roadshow"
cya
magnetic


From amiga-news.de "Especially we are very delighted to present some developers and members of Hyperion. At this event the following persons will be present: Steffen Häuser, Hans-Jörg Frieden and Thomas Frieden."

Well.. so much for your theory.   :-o
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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #61 on: May 31, 2003, 09:43:45 AM »
@Kay

I hope you are joking.  :-D
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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #62 on: May 31, 2003, 10:11:49 AM »
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I'll buy one when OS4 rocks on it. Or maybe I'll buy the BlizzardPPC version (low finances @ the moment) and wait for the 64bit PPC from IBM to come to the Amiga.

You'll have a long wait for the BlizzardPPC version, since I get the impression we're unlikely to see it before the AOne version is out. In any case, I'm prepared to bet that once people see the Aone version, they won't be interested in buying PPC accelerator cards instead: it's going to be so much faster.

As for IBM's 64-bit PPC, it isn't available for any desktops right now. It's pointless waiting for it, if that's all you're waiting for, since the AOne boards have their processor on an easily-removable module (yes, it is easy to remove. I checked) and all you'd have to do is swap the CPU module and upgrade your system to the 64-bit OS of your choice.

Not much point in running a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit system is there?  :-D
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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #63 on: May 31, 2003, 10:21:35 AM »
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YttriumOx wrote:
AmigaOne G3-XE here.

Rock solid, working well, and DID come with a Linux Install disk (for the post that says it didn't)

G3-XE here as well, rock solid, working well despite being slightly overclocked (reliability testing, do not try this at home as it may invalidate your warranty  :-P  ).

It came with TWO Linux install disks, SuSE and Debian, as do all the mobos I sell as well. And, like the other dealers, I'll supply the CDs for the distro or even install it myself if the customer buys a config and wants it ready to run.

And to wring the neck of another "fact" I can see coming, there is plenty of tech support from experienced Linux users both in English on the main dev list and in the language of your choice on the dealers' support lists.
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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #64 on: May 31, 2003, 10:33:03 AM »
I have an A1G4. ..and Linux isn't all that bad. In fact I will have to dual boot when OS4 comes out because I'm really beginning to like it.
 

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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #65 on: May 31, 2003, 11:02:23 AM »
@ HMetal

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@magnetic

You're quite wrong there..  AmigaOS4 is coming, and that right soon.

See AmigaOS 4.0 On Tour.


Oh, so basically you are saying (judging from the context in which you post, the statements you are answering to, and the contents of your own post) that OS4 is going to be released to end users, running on the A1 hardware, on 07.06.2003? I was under impression that the "OS4 On Tour" was just a controlled demonstration of the OS, running on legacy Amiga PPC hardware? That is of course nice and long waited for, but surely you must understand  that this has nothing to do with either release nor the A1 hardware (you were answering to a statement which said "unless you are a linux freak, don't buy an A1 at this point because linux is all you are going to run on it for a long time")?

For this demonstration they will propably use a somewhat "clean" HW setup with their choice of programs, carefully selected. All the parameters will be known. But a final end-user version, ready for release, will have to run stable in all thinkable HW configurations where the user has spent the previous 10 years or so patching the system in different ways (many unknown parameters).

I would guess that a CSPPC version of OS4 won't be released until late summer/fall at the earliest. And then we are still speaking of an OS running in a legacy envireonment, where the custom chips are still available. My guess is that Hyperion at this time focus their efforts towards bringing OS4 out to the classic Amiga instead of the A1 (guessing the reason: some parts of the OS still depends on the legacy hardware envireonment and they want to release a product ASAP to get momentum for further development). The A1 comes after that, and that will be a complete ailien envireonment for the OS (and the applications running on it), and I guess it will take some more time to make the OS and legacy applications run stable on that HW. After all, "you will only have 1 chance to make a good first impression", and you really don't want to release an OS that can be crashed by some certain legacy applications, not after all the laughs, sneering and mockery MorphOS/Pegasos rendered because of this fact. My guess is that OS4 is still very far away from the A1 hardware. Christmas 2003? Perhaps too optimistic. Q1/Q2 of 2004?

A lot of guessing as you can see. But at least I try to base them on realistic assumptions. If you don't agree and is replying to this, please do the same.
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #66 on: May 31, 2003, 11:06:28 AM »
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Atheist wrote:
Have One
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On order
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When AOS4.0 is out
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Future
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Add a fifth category, "When OS4 is released for better A1 hardware than the current, with a reasonable price". You can count me into that category!  :-)
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #67 on: May 31, 2003, 11:13:38 AM »
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anarchic_teapot wrote:

As for IBM's 64-bit PPC, it isn't available for any desktops right now.


Like some other things. :-P

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It's pointless waiting for it,


Well ...  :-P  :-P
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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #68 on: May 31, 2003, 11:17:08 AM »
OT ALERT!

@takemehome grandma

Nice avatar. I was going to insult you, til I realised that XOOPS have Herbert de Vaucanson and Alcibiade among their collection of avatars.

Unfortunately I can't find Zongo, so if anyone knows where I can find one please let me know.

Rose, who happens to be a fan of the 'Donjon' comic books
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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #69 on: May 31, 2003, 01:47:28 PM »
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anarchic_teapot wrote:

I was going to insult you,


OK, no need for that, I am sorry for the sarcasm above. No harm intended. I guess some things are worth waiting for, other things are not.  ;-)
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #70 on: May 31, 2003, 02:08:33 PM »
@DaveP:

Well, I wasn't joking in the sense of trying to be funny, but no, I am of course not going to be trolling every Pegasos/MOS thread for two months :-). I was merely trying to get him to see how his behaviour looks from my standpoint. I don't mind people buying Pegasoses (Pegasi?) at all. My standing towards the entire MOS/Pegasos issue is that I don't care either way, as long as it doesn't significantly affect the platforms I do care about. So I usually stay out of any discussion about it.

Kay
 

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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #71 on: May 31, 2003, 02:56:38 PM »
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anarchic_teapot wrote:

I was going to insult you,


OK, no need for that, I am sorry for the sarcasm above. No harm intended. I guess some things are worth waiting for, other things are not.  ;-)


I was actually referring to your avatar, but cheers anyway.

AT
 

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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #72 on: May 31, 2003, 03:09:56 PM »
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anarchic_teapot wrote

As for IBM's 64-bit PPC, it isn't available for any desktops right now. It's pointless waiting for it, if that's all you're waiting for, since the AOne boards have their processor on an easily-removable module (yes, it is easy to remove. I checked) and all you'd have to do is swap the CPU module and upgrade your system to the 64-bit OS of your choice.


Uhhh I don't think the current AOne boards can handle the IBM 970's.  
 

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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #73 on: June 01, 2003, 02:06:47 PM »
I have to admit, I've become disenchanted with all of the G3/G4 Amigas at this point. Untill OS4 is mature and has demonstrated legit coolness, I have placed my intention to buy on hold.

Right now, all I really want to see is the Amiga ColdFusion upgrade (assuming it does end up working). I want as much 68k power out of my A4000 as I can get!
- Doc

A4000D, A3640 OC-36.3MHz, custom tower, Mediator A4000D. Diamond Banshee 16M, Indivision AGA 4000, GVP HC+8.

Mac Mini 1.5GHz, that might run MorphOS someday, when the fools who own it come to the realization that 30 minutes just isn\'t enough time to play with it enough to decide whether or not you like it enough to cough up $200.

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Re: AmigaOne.....
« Reply #74 on: June 01, 2003, 03:31:46 PM »
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AmigaOne G3-XE here.


Augh!  I've had mine on order since December 18 and paid for mine up front.  Still waiting for SOMETHING to arrive on my doorstep.

Doug
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