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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2003, 07:02:28 PM »

LOVE & PEACE!!! :-D :-D :-D

I don't hate you Chris Hodges! I don't hate Elbox! We are all friends here, but all of you just
didn't realized that! :-D

LOVE & PEACE!!! :-D :-D :-D
 

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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2003, 02:22:55 PM »
This whole topic is funny as hell to me... I don't even use USB devices on my PC, let alone my Amiga!
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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2003, 02:59:27 PM »
@Dr_Wrongeous
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This whole topic is funny as hell to me... I don't even use USB devices on my PC, let alone my Amiga!


Maybe it's fun to you... :-x But it's not to me, I actually think it's a rather important topic, who many may get fund of, if they're thinking about purchasing USB equipment for their Amiga...
So please keep your lame idea of fun away from this topic...

@All of you

I can see this is a hot discution now...

I recived the before mentioned e-mail from ELBOX and they didn't answer my questions at all, but send me a list of links to find the information myself... OK then, not the best customerservice, but I guess they are trying to damp the situation...

I'm not going to gloryfy any of the involed in this matter, just hope the things work as promised, and I'll then go back to live my life as normal...
 

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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2003, 05:27:00 PM »
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There's one main reason, why I don't listen to what a Rat says: It stinks. I wonder, why in fables, liars are often represented as rats. Stay in your dream world, where Elbox rules the world. Ignorance is bliss. Don't try to waste my time.

ARE THERE ANY MODERATORS IN THIS FORUM?
The posts like that one from Chris Hodges are so offensive--they surely violate the rules for this forum.

I bought my Poseidon keys from Chris Hodges and he knows my name. And he knows it sounds 'Rat' in translation.

I don't know from where Chris Hodges comes, maybe in his native country offending people by calling them names are something of a standard. Anyway, in my country such behaviour is considered complete lack of personal culture.
 

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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2003, 05:33:55 PM »
20 Euros Eh?  #### I`ll give you the money if your that bothered.

Rude!
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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2003, 10:03:59 AM »
You want something rude? I think, that somebody, who uses a "Rat" nickname on ann.lu and then pretends to be offended to be addressed by this very nickname, he chose by his own, is clearly utterly brainless. Dense. IQ lower than the room temperature. Do you understand? I doubt it.

Everybody knows, what you're trying to do here, Jacek. You're a twister. You take the words that people say and convert it into bullsh*t. Whenever somebody has a valid argument, you either ignore it, or go down to personal insult level. You deny the truth with every possible method. In every country in this world, people have a word that would describe your major character features. And it wouldn't be a friendly one.

Even in Poland. I know a lot of people from this country and they always behaved in a friendly and fair way. It doesn't seem to be specific to a nation that there will always be some assholes. There are assholes in Germany too, no doubt. (And before you start that: No, I didn't say that /YOU/ are an asshole -- that's something you've got to find out yourself.)

What did you ever do for the Amiga? Eh? Did you ever do something productive? Something creative? Or could it be possible that you might be a poor, frustrated slob without a girl friend, who only has one task in this world: to ruin other people's day?

You've got no idea on the things you're talking about. But you would never admit it. Example: You were indicating that Highway/Subway or Algor boards are using some Atmel 8 Bit USB Controller. That's complete bullshit. You also claimed that USB1.1 chipsets would not being produced anymore. That's also more than wrong.

Have you ever thought of doing some therapy? I believe there are people, who could help you.

Listen: I will send you back your EUR 20. All you have to do, is to delete your keyfile, deinstall my software and ask Elbox to provide the neccessary USB Stack of their own. And pray that we never ever meet in person.
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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2003, 10:42:11 AM »
It's your choice not to use USB in Amiga or PC like it's your choice not to use HDs and keep everything on floppies;) I don't want to criticise your choice, but I somehow fail to understand that you do not want the hardware/software that allows me to use a printer, scanner, tablet or a digital camera with my Amiga/Pegasos.
 

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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2003, 10:53:59 AM »
It's funny to see how platon42 and his 'sidekick' attack this 'Rat' dude on a personal level without bringing any arguments why their cards are better then the Elbox ones. Don't get me wrong i appriciate your work on Poseidon as it's a very good USB stack but just be real.You already said Highway is sold out so don't worry Elbox won't 'steal' your earnings. At least Elbox doesn't take part on such lame discussions and i never saw they attacked you as you attack them. You say it's easy to stick another label on a pc card and sell that but was it easy to make Mediator which was made to take pc cards anyway ? Just face it Elbox has the better hardware you have the best(only) software and stop this pointless fight....
 

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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2003, 11:46:13 AM »
My last post was not about Elbox nor their Mediator board nor the Highway. Please don't you start mixing things here aswell.

And about Elbox not attacking me: I am offended of being called a liar, cracker and pirate. Wouldn't you be, too?

Finally, this thread also was about the price of the Algor board which is on sale right now. The only aim Rat has, is to promote the Spider (and can you be sure that he isn't one of Elbox' at least indirect employees according to all his postings during the whole year?) and bash the Algor with wrong and twisted information. The software that is used to drive the Algor was written by me. So I do take it personally, if somebody writes that much bullshit all the time.

And about better hardware: I'll be giving away a free Poseidon registration for anyone, who can give a proof that the Spider (I or II) in an Mediator system is able to beat the Algor speedwise on an USB1.1 mass storage device (same CPU, same device).
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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2003, 07:45:32 PM »
@platon42

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You want something rude? I think, that somebody, who uses a "Rat" nickname on ann.lu
and then pretends to be offended to be addressed by this very nickname, he chose by
his own, is clearly utterly brainless.
'Rat' is my family name in translation to English language. I'm your customer and you have my personal data. My name--Rat--was used in this forum by YOU and by Michael Boehmer from E3B, NOT by me. In this forum I use nickname 'tjaoz' solely.

Read once again what YOU have written in your previous post:
'There's one main reason, why I don't listen to what a Rat says: It stinks. I wonder, why in fables, liars are often represented as rats.'
It is clear that YOU are trying to offend me personally with your rude comments related to my name. IMHO this your offensive post should be removed by moderators.

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Dense. IQ lower than the room temperature. Do you understand? I doubt it.
Another example of YOUR offensive attitude. Where is your education and upbringing?

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Everybody knows, what you're trying to do here, Jacek. You're a twister. You take the
words that people say and convert it into bullsh*t. Whenever somebody has a valid argument,
you either ignore it, or go down to personal insult level.
Personal insult level is what YOU are doing. You prove it with every word of yours. You offend intelligence of people reading this forum by your comments made as if nobody could see it. The same style goes for your friend here, Michael Boehmer. When he lacks arguments, HE starts insulting his interlocutor. Unlike your posts, I do not say anythng disturbing. I did NOT write anything offensive. Whatever you are trying to impute here, I never offended you, in public or in private.

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You deny the truth with every
possible method.
No. When I discuss things, I use facts. I often give links to verify what I am saying. Can't say this about your appearance here.

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In every country in this world, people have a word that would describe
your major character features. And it wouldn't be a friendly one.
Even in Poland. I know a lot of people from this country and they always behaved in
a friendly and fair way. It doesn't seem to be specific to a nation that there will always
be some assholes. There are assholes in Germany too, no doubt. (And before you start that:
No, I didn't say that /YOU/ are an asshole -- that's something you've got to find out yourself.
So to whom you address your insults?
Do you finally understand that your description is quite good for people behaving like you?

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What did you ever do for the Amiga? Eh?
I'am an Amiga user. I do not have to do anything special for Amiga to post my comments here. There are more people like me in this forum. That you have written some program for Amiga, doesn't mean that you are entitled to attacking users and offending them. If you do not agree with somebody, just write that your opinion is different and give arguments to back up your attitude.

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Did you ever do something productive? Something creative?
Yes, my work is productive. Still, my professional work has nothing to do with this forum.

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Or could it be possible that you might be a poor, frustrated slob without a girl
friend, who only has one task in this world: to ruin other people's day?
It looks like your girlfriend let you down and you let your steam out with aggression, frustration and being unfriendly for people.

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You've got no idea on the things you're talking about. But you would never admit it.
Example: You were indicating that Highway/Subway or Algor boards are using some Atmel
8 Bit USB Controller.
Not true, I did NOT write it. First learn reading and getting to understand texts, then comment. This is what I wrote here about USB Zorro2 boards:
'Of course I appreciate that their producer must have been able to read the Zorro2 specification, to plot the board, to program a simple PLD chip and to connect it with a dollar-cheap 8-bit USB controller taken from Atmel or with such chip from Transdimension.'

AFAIK Highway/Subway boards are based on a simple 8-bit USB controller UHC124 from Transdimension, similar to Atmel controllers, series AT43USB35x. Algor probably is based on a UHF243 from Transdimension, but Atmel produce a similar chip now, as well.

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That's complete bullshit.
Another comment referring to YOUR own post, thank you.

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You also claimed that USB1.1 chipsets would
not being produced anymore. That's also more than wrong.
Wrogn again, Chris. I did NOT write it. I wrote:
'USB 1.1 hosts which do not have the High Speed mode are now clearly obsolete. The basic difference between the USB 2.0 and the USB 1.1 standards is in adding High Speed mode in USB 2.0. Now no more USB 1.1 controllers (hosts) are produced for computers. Sure, there are devices with controllers (hosts) of the USB 1.1 standard, but not for computers. This type (USB 1.1) controllers (hosts) are installed in some specialised devices where speed of operation is not important.'
and
'Once again: Now no more USB 1.1 controllers (= PCI cards with USB ports) are produced for computers.'

These quotes come from my posts in the Highway ML: here and here.

It is clear that I did not write that USB1.1 chipsets would not be produced anymore as you state, but that obsolete USB1.1 host chipsets TO COMPUTERS are not produced any more. They are still produced for some specialised devices where speed of operation is not important. Get the difference?

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Have you ever thought of doing some therapy? I believe there are people, who could help you.
Doing therapy is a good idea. People will help me, sure. But how to make YOU come to sessions and get healed?

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Listen: I will send you back your EUR 20. All you have to do, is to delete your keyfile,
I can see you have NO idea about law that is binding you as a seller. It is me who could demand refunding from you. But I demand restoring the proper operation of the software that I bought from you.

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And pray that we never ever meet in person.
Why? Threatening me? What would you do to me?
 

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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2003, 09:21:32 PM »
Dear tjaoz,

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Yes, my work is productive. Still, my professional work has nothing to do with this forum.


Just being curious... you don't happen to work as photographer ? For advertisment ? In a nice little town which name begins with a "T" ?

If so, nice pictures anyway.

Michael
 

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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2003, 09:29:14 PM »
'Rat' is my family name in translation to English language. I'm your customer and you have my personal data. My name--Rat--was used in this forum by YOU and by Michael Boehmer from E3B, NOT by me. In this forum I use nickname 'tjaoz' solely.
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The key here is "in this forum". You used Rat as a
nickname to post THE SAME utter bullshit on ann.lu,
MULTIBLE times...
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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2003, 09:30:40 PM »
@tjaoz:

Did you purchase Poseidon from Platon42, or was it to be included with your Spider?
Regards,
Targhan
 

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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2003, 09:59:47 PM »
I have this operating system called Windoze XPee.  You can connect any USB device to it on the motherboard, and it instantly works! What a brilliant idea for ASUS to have built-on USB on motherboards. Wait, its on every other board too!  :-P
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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2003, 10:24:19 PM »
You can't imagine how instantly it happens on Peg:-)
Imagine having a USB mouse working by just plugging it in, no driver installations, no popups, no
anything. It's initialized in t<<1s , almost as fast as
a PS/2 mouse, instantly. Should be the same on all
other supported boards, really, but on the Peg and
AOne, it's built in:)
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Re: Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 03, 2003, 11:58:23 PM »
Nice to see other people trying to lighten the mood of this topic... I try it and end up getting flamed!

I dunno about the rest of you, but I consider Amiga a hobby platform... And I'm not about to get that upset over a hobby platform. (Serious video production folks, ignore this)

If something works, cool... If not, there's no sense in fighting about it. If you need to buy software to make hardware work, that's just the way it is... Otherwise write something yourself and give it out freely.

We're a community with a common interest. Let's act like civilized people for a change!
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