A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions

[McTrinsic]

RE: Frankenthousand.

Yes, now I have seen it.

Pics are here:

http://www.a1k.org/forum/index.php?mode=viewthread&forum_id=15&thread=5

An impressive machine.

Have fun,
McTrinsic

[McTrinsic]

More pics!

See original link.

Have fun,
McTrinsic

[Framiga]

@McTrinsic

i wrote years ago (2002 or so) a little review about it for an italian Amiga magazine.

The pics are (more or less) the same as that link.

About the specs, i have the original one than (AFAIK) Paul have upgraded/changed a bit.

Probably is better that Paul himself, will post it :-)

[amigadave]

a-pex wrote:
>So you mean they started this project in December of 2004
>and completed and entire motherboard redesign in under a
>year and a half?!?!?

No, only the reproduction of 50 boards were done in this time. No redesign, it is 100% original, made with original  (like the plane board) and some new parts.

Does anyone know why only 50 new boards were made?  Was it just that 50 boards were found somewhere and they installed the components on them, or was it an actual production run of 50 new boards?

What would it take to make another 50?  Are the parts even available anymore?

[redrumloa]

Pardon my ignorance, but does this mean someone actually made a new production run of Phoenix boards :-?

Just read further and it appears to be so :-o

Ok, so how much for me to get a production run for myself? :-D

[amiga_3k]

@amigadave:

The Phoenix board was designed and manufacturered as a replacement board for the A1000 originals motherboard. The Amiga specific components, ie the custom-chips, had to be lifted of the original A1000 mainboard and re-mounted on the Phoenix. This way Phoenix got a way with having no Commodore / Amiga license.

More on the Phoenix can be found at Amiga Hardware Book and at the A1000 users site.

[Jope]

gdanko wrote:
I believe it was a successor to the CBM900 Unix machine. That project was scrapped and they had a ton of cases so the A1000 was shoe horned into it. If you look at a stock A1000, everything is kind of stuffed in there haphazardly.

This is incorrect.

The A1000 case is from the original Los Gatos team, the keyboard garage was their idea.

You're thinking A2000. The front panel design is similar between CBM900 and A2000, but it is not the same size and the drive bays are different.

Some images from The Secret Weapons of Commodore:

http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/secret/cbm-900-white.jpg
http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/secret/cbm-clip-900.jpg

[McTrinsic]

@aolmurder &
@amigadave

Well, the board itself is sort of standard-hardware.

It is a question of money to have a new production run.

Don't ask me how much money, though.

Refer to http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/sirius/phoenix.htm as mentioned earlier, but be ready to deal with Andrew... he can be slow at times. Reminds me of a weird professor at times: a genius at work, but unablbe to use all these numbered buttons on this telephone-thingy .

The 50 new boards were made because of the estimated numbers of buyers from Germany. We made a project out of it, and as one result, a1k.org was born. Please be aware that we paid in advance. On the other hand, it was the only new Amiga-classic-motherboard since the demise of Escom. And yes, they were newly made for us.

I think it's worth it. Also be aware that only some chips are available. The custom chips still need to come from some old amiga, and afaik Andrew works on some mods to some chips to allow for example mor than one type of Agnus for 2MB Chip setup.

Did that answer some questions? Do you have more?

Have fun,
McTrinsic

[redrumloa]

Yes, very cool! Where do I sign up?!? :-D

My biggest problem with classic Amigas at this point is the hardware is failing. No fun to be in middle of something and have the thing just die. A brand new MB, especially a Phoenix board, would be sweet. I always wanted one. The business side of me also wouldn't mind a stack of them for resale. :-D

Someone have an inidividual one for resale yet? :-D

[pierre]

or two....
anyway what are chance of this type of thing happening to say a 3000, where we could make a new board with lets say AGA.  IFcourse we would have to supply our own chips and stuff.
I know if most likely imposible.  I however would be willing to put some cash down IF we could find sombody who could actualy pull this off.

[redrumloa]

I'd guess probably impossible for a replacement A3000 board, unless someone hit the lottery and wanted to bankroll it, as AFAIK there were no aftermarket MBs made. AFAIK the Phoenix board board was the only 3rd party MB for the Amiga.

[pierre]

how much did it cost for the a1000 3rd party boead... (a lot im sure..)

[McTrinsic]

@all

Just make sure to visit

http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/sirius/phoenix.htm

and

http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/sirius/ABOUT.htm

for information and contact.

Just make sure you can bear with the long time it usually takes for Andrew to respond.


Have fun,
McTrinsic

[a-pex]

>What would it take to make another 50? Are the parts even >available anymore?

No! Maybe Andrew can made something like a Phoenix-II (in the future), but for the moment all needed parts were gone.

I started this project with 15 orders and it grows up to 50 orders from WHOLE europe. I wrote sometimes a newsupdate on amiga-news.de, but it seems that the news was not translated for amiga.org.

I think I have to talk to Andrew again. :-D

Maybe, maybe there is something possible, but we need much time and the price for one board with shipping and tax will be about 300 euros!

[a-pex]

>Pardon my ignorance, but does this mean someone actually
>made a new production run of Phoenix boards

Yes, I made this.  :-D  I spend one and half year on this project...

If you are interested in the "New Phoenix Story", you can read it in the english amiga-scene magazine Jurassic Pack #16.

Get it here:
http://www.diskmag.de/downloads/JP16.lha
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=25938

[ncc1701d]

I have never heard of the phoenix, and when i started reading this thread i got so excited.. but it went away as soon i read there were no more left

I really want one..

I have my old A1000 stuffed away..

Anders/Sweden