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Offline gdanko

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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2006, 08:15:26 PM »
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The Amiga 1000 case design is, IMHO, one of the best designs Commodore ever came up with and it's great to see people keeping them going like this.


FYI, the A1000 case was not originally designed for the A1000. :)
 

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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2006, 08:30:14 PM »
@gdanko:

Not? WHat system was it designed for?
And what was the A1000 originally meant to look like?

Got some sources? Links?

I'm highly interested!


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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2006, 08:34:18 PM »
I believe it was a successor to the CBM900 Unix machine. That project was scrapped and they had a ton of cases so the A1000 was shoe horned into it. If you look at a stock A1000, everything is kind of stuffed in there haphazardly.
 

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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2006, 08:55:16 PM »
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@techie
You can actually mount the system in any AT-Formfactor case, the screws will fit. It got an according connector for power. Admittedly, you will need a naw backplate, but those are easy to make. And the board is not that expensive. What about putting it in a nice IBM-Workstation case from back then?

The A1000 case is the best PC case ever for me - that's why it was so utterly important for me that you don't see anything on the outside. The modern deisgners of new PC cases all fail to solve one problem: where do I store the keyboard? That quastion is, for example, important for home theater systems. one example is the Shuttple XPC series: wonderful  design ... but where the heck am I supposed to put the keyboard? :)


@McTrinsic

It's neat that it fits into an AT-Formfactor case as well as the A1000, but quite frankly it just wouldn't be half as cool if I put it in a AT case :-)

I agree that the board isn't really that expensive, unless of course you just happen to be coming out of University and you haven't found a job yet :lol: In which case anything over 50bucks tends to look a little expensive  :-D

Still a fantastic little system and IF I can find a job soon I'll be sure to set some money aside for one  :-)  
 

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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2006, 11:01:24 PM »
@McTrinsic
Sorry, but there are no more boards avaible. 50 new board were built and 48 were sold to users in whole europe, the last 2 are for Andrew (the developer). :-)

@All
You can found more information about the phoenix board on the new official site: http://phoenix.a1k.org/index.php?lang=en&id=0x1

The boards were built in down under from Andrew and Pyng and then shipped to germany. The project startet in 2004 (2004.12.08) on amiga-news.de and was finished this year (2006.04.25).

Andrew gave me the first Phoenix board ever built for this project, you can see it here:
http://www.a1k.org/forum/index.php?mode=viewthread&forum_id=15&thread=20

This are pictures from the new produced turboboard for the phoenix from George:
http://www.a1k.org/forum/index.php?mode=viewthread&forum_id=15&thread=22

And here some pictures from the Phoenix Buddha IDE controller from Jens (still avaible!):
http://www.a1k.org/forum/index.php?mode=viewthread&forum_id=15&thread=23

The whole new phoenix story will be released in english and german in the next Jurrasic Pack Diskmag (the whole mag is in english):
http://jurassicpack.de/

Ok, I think this is now enought information for every A1000/Phoenix freak, if you want to visit us, you are welcome (we speak english). ;-)

Best regards, aPEX
Amiga & Phoenix Community
http://www.a1k.org
 

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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2006, 01:11:22 AM »
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@McTrinsic
Sorry, but there are no more boards avaible. 50 new board were built and 48 were sold to users in whole europe, the last 2 are for Andrew (the developer).



@a-pex
So I take it that means there won't be any more boards unless another big order comes in eh  :-( Or was this last batch really THE last batch?


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@All
Ok, I think this is now enought information for every A1000/Phoenix freak, if you want to visit us, you are welcome (we speak english)


@a-pex
I think I'll have to visit now that you and McTrinsic have peeked my interest
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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2006, 02:41:34 AM »
I must admit, I am in awe of the Phoenix System.  It is a well laid out piece of hardware.  Even comes with a Zorro and Video Slot.  Compared to my Amiga 500, I would have prefered the Phoenix.  (Too bad there aren't any left- I'd quickly put my Amiga 500 back in storage)

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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2006, 04:22:47 PM »
@techie
No, it was not necessesarily THE last batch.

Andrew (the developer) sell them for money (hint! hint!), ist just that he can't afford to have tto much money lying around in the shape of phoenix-boards.

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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2006, 01:52:29 AM »
@McTrinsic

 
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Andrew (the developer) sell them for money (hint! hint!), ist just that he can't afford to have tto much money lying around in the shape of phoenix-boards.


That seems perfectly reasonable, after all there's no point making more up if they're just going to sit around collecting dust. Hopefully there are still enough people out there who want this board to make it worth while to do another production run.

Incidentally, is there some form of subscription service people can sign up for to get news of a new production run?   I only ask because I was just thinking that maybe a service like that might be a good way to keep interested people informed of new developments and at the same time provide a way for the developer to gauge if there is enough interest to do another run. Just an idea I had anyway :-)

Sorry if I've gone off topic. I know I should probably be asking these questions on the A1K.org forum but when I went to the site I couldn't find a dedicated English subform   :-? so I was a little hesitant to post anything as I know some people can get annoyed when you don't post in the official language of a form.

 
 

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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2006, 02:36:24 AM »
you guys are cool.
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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2006, 03:02:39 AM »
Wow...

So you mean they started this project in December of 2004 and completed and entire motherboard redesign in under a year and a half?!?!?

And since then there have been accelerators and ide interfaces and scandoublers made for it?!?!?!

Why does that seem soooo Un-Amiga?

Nobody develops that fast...

P.S.
I'd be intersted in one too! (How much are they?)
 

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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2006, 04:37:18 AM »
because they stated in 1990 isch?
 

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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2006, 04:03:43 PM »
>So you mean they started this project in December of 2004
>and completed and entire motherboard redesign in under a
>year and a half?!?!?

No, only the reproduction of 50 boards were done in this time. No redesign, it is 100% original, made with original  (like the plane board) and some new parts.

>And since then there have been accelerators and ide
>interfaces and scandoublers made for it?!?!?!

Yes, the expansions were a private project by George, the designs are avaible on his homepage, if you want to build something... Only the turboboard was build in small production run (about 30 pieces I think).

>Why does that seem soooo Un-Amiga?

If the community work together without conflicts, everything is possible. ;-) :-)
 

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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2006, 08:30:10 PM »
What really surprises me is that actually so few people seem to know about the phoenix...


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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2006, 11:31:42 PM »
@McTrinsic
I can't speak for everyone but I have heard of the phoenix board before, only from what I understood the board wasn't supposed to exist anymore (apart from the lucky few people who already owned one). So it really came as quite a pleasant shock to hear that someone was producing them again even if it was only in limited number.

I hope you'll keep us all informed about any further developments  :-)
 

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Re: A1000 Phoenix System w/ expansions
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 08, 2006, 08:33:37 AM »
RE: Frankenthousand.

Yes, now I have seen it.

Pics are here:

http://www.a1k.org/forum/index.php?mode=viewthread&forum_id=15&thread=5

An impressive machine.

Have fun,
McTrinsic