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If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« on: May 02, 2003, 12:43:59 PM »
Just imagine this for a second.

Genesi buy the rights to Amiga IP.  No "Dongle" required, you can run AOS4 when it comes ot on the choice of motherboard you want,  just like you can with Windows/Linux/DOS, be it an A1/Pegasos/Teron/Barbie/Apple/IBM  or any boards that may be released in the future.

Healthy competition in the hardware market will bring down prices just like in the Wintel world.

I think this would be a "Good Thing (TM)"

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The whole AmigaDE lawsuit was just a means to shut Bill McEwen up and force Amiga Inc. into a settlement that might include us obtaining the rights to the Amiga trademarks and the classic OS. Amiga Inc. had no reason to spread all the FUD they did officially about MorphOS, particularly after we tried so hard to help them in 2000 and 2001. McEwen's 1 September "we will shut you down" threat was just more talk and on about the same level as the coupon scam. We could not allow him to continue to do this and took action. It worked. He is gone.

Back to the lawsuit...the worst case for us would be enforcing our license agreement that would require Amiga Inc. to integrate DE for use in some way with the Pegasos which would then allow us to use the trademarks (as there are some that would prefer to call the Pegasos an Amiga). Again, no big deal...users/customers can/should have the choice to call their computer whatever they want and do whatever they want with it....;-)
 

Offline hnl_dk

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2003, 12:58:43 PM »
If Genesi would own the rights to the Amiga IP, then my next computer wouldn't be an Amiga!!!!

How can you trust those guys???

For example bbrv!!!
[img align=left]http://home1.stofanet.dk/hnl_dk/amigaos4_hnl.gif[/img][img align=left]http://home1.stofanet.dk/hnl_dk/Amiga-slice_hnl.png[/img]Best regards,
Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark]...
 

Offline Paul_Gadd

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2003, 01:02:56 PM »
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How can you trust those guys???


I trust no one but Buck said he will release products and he has done, Amiga Inc said they will release products and they have not.

People may not like BB for his comments but you can not deny the facts where products are concerned, now look at Amiga Inc and can you say the same?
 

Offline Herewegoagain

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2003, 01:03:35 PM »
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If Genesi would own the rights to the Amiga IP, then my next computer wouldn't be an Amiga!!!!


I'm with you there.  Unless it were under different ownership too.
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Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2003, 01:09:37 PM »
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hnl_dk wrote:
If Genesi would own the rights to the Amiga IP, then my next computer wouldn't be an Amiga!!!!

How can you trust those guys???

For example bbrv!!!


If this should turn out to be true, then I am quite sure that many would reconsider where to put their trust!

Anyway, I don't think it will take long now until the Amiga Inc bubble officially bursts. Then it will be clear who has been lying and who has not. It will be interesting.
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2003, 01:09:59 PM »
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How can you trust those guys???

For example bbrv!!!


Do you own any Microsoft products?

How can you trust those guys?

For example Bill Gates!!!

Microsoft are convicted felons.

 

Offline zacman

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2003, 02:02:07 PM »
>If Genesi would own the rights to the Amiga IP,
>then my next computer wouldn't be an Amiga!!!!

Let's see: If Genesi doesn't have the Amiga IP, you
wouldn't buy a Genesi product. If they had the Amiga
IP you wouldn't buy a Genesi product either. So no
loss there for Genesi.
 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2003, 02:03:01 PM »
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If this should turn out to be true,
It is.
 

Offline bhoggett

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2003, 02:39:49 PM »
@mdma

Shouldn't this thread be in "Talk about"?

It's not exactly based on anything concrete, is it.
Bill Hoggett
 

Offline sTix

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2003, 02:40:43 PM »
 :-)

And maybe we would have gotten an OS4 beta?

(we would have gotten? is that english?)

 

Offline JurassicCamper

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2003, 02:49:35 PM »
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mdma wrote:
Just imagine this for a second.

Genesi buy the rights to Amiga IP.


No thanks. I'm curious about about the Pegasos / MorphOS but not curious enough to buy one.

Maybe if Amiga fold, Eyetech and Hyperion could join under the trademark.
Prices would drop as they dont have to pay the royalties to what was Amiga anymore.
The offical company would then also have a ready made dealer network and software department for in house development of the OS / Games.
Control would be back in Europe where the Amiga has always thrived.

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Offline filson

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2003, 02:51:12 PM »
hmm, sawing off the branch that you sit on is often called "bad business practice".

Respect to those who deliver. That goes for BBRR too.
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Offline amigamad

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2003, 02:55:16 PM »
 Genesi had there chance to get os4 forpegasos but they blew it they might have products released but they do not have final versions of morph os yet .and hyperion are much more skilled at writing software than the morph os team .
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Offline bhoggett

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2003, 02:55:52 PM »
@Paul_Gadd

I have to agree with that really. Too many people confuse "trust" with "like". I see people desperately defending Bill and Fleecy because they like them, or demanding how you can trust Bill Buck because they don't like him or his methods.

I have to admit that I'm yet to see any evidence why - as a customer - I would be worried about trusting Genesi as a company. So far they appear to have delivered. The product may have more caveats at the moment than tends to be publicised, but they have delivered.*

OTOH, I have a great many reservations about Mr Buck's public attitide, specially when it comes to getting one over his rivals. He frequently cross the borders of decency and professionalism and that leads me to dislike his methods.

I quite like Bill McEwen, though I have never had any direct exchanges with him, and Fleecy is OK too unless his temper flares up, when he can turn really unpleasant, and he does seem to have something of a hair-trigger on it. The trouble is that I no longer trust them.

Both parties could do with polishing up their professional image, as neither gets goods marks overall.

Still, this is all moot, because I'm not too likely to become a customer of either side, for the simple reason that they don't have any products that are relevant to me.


(*) That opinion is derived from having spoken to Pegasos owners, who on the whole are happy and optimistic about their purchase, but admit that it's not all plain sailing. I tried getting similar opinions about OS4, but, needless to say, I was not quite as successful.  :-P
Bill Hoggett
 

Offline filson

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2003, 03:07:27 PM »
So A inc is bust when it comes to $$?
My name is Filson. I solve problems.