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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2003, 03:09:19 PM »
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It's not exactly based on anything concrete, is it.
If all goes well, I hope to have the court transcripts soon.  Would that be concrete enough?
 

Offline Rassilon

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2003, 03:09:21 PM »
If Genesi owned Amiga Inc you wouldn't see AOS4 on all those platforms!!

You want to know why?

Well Genesi own MorphOS but you don't see IT available on all those platforms do you?

Right case closed!
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Offline bhoggett

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2003, 03:23:50 PM »
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Wayne wrote:
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It's not exactly based on anything concrete, is it.
If all goes well, I hope to have the court transcripts soon.  Would that be concrete enough?


I mean that the ownership of Amiga Inc. IP falling to Genesi is speculation. Besides, the forum is "Amiga OS development", isn't it?

Besides, aside from making use of the Amiga brand, there would be nothing else of use to Genesi.
Bill Hoggett
 

Offline greenboy

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2003, 03:25:26 PM »
Actually right now Genesi finds it more realistic to be porting umpty-ten OSes to Pegasos, including AROS, thanks to the AROS team's interest in participating. I've also got people in Phoenix from various OS communities adding to this list of ports right now...

But that doesn't make MorphOS on other hardware out of the question, later. We'll see...
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Offline Jethro_Tull

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2003, 04:01:00 PM »
Is this the beginning of the end for Amiga Inc ?

Wayne is dead right when he demands that the truth about Amiga Inc has to come out.  Since the demise of Commodore and Escom, no new development has occured.  Just empty promises and prototypes.  Light has to be shed and end all this FUD and speculation.  This has to be done sooner rather then later!  Amiga users have waited too long, and endured too much.  

Myself, I'm waiting for the release of OS4 with baited breath.  However, even with the goodwill and perseverance that Hyperion and Eyetech have shown, without Amiga Inc, our platform would be surely doomed to failuire.  

The Amiga OS should've moved on an X86 platform, rather then run on propriatary hardware, which Eyetech and Genesis are struggling to manufactur and deliver.  I am not a big fan of PCs myself.  But the parts are powerfull, readily available and cheap!  And since they're tried and tested, embarassing mistakes like Genesi's Aritica chip fiasco would've been avoided.

Instead, Amiga Inc and Genesi should've chosen a set of motherboard chipsets, graphics and sound card to be supported.  Then concentrate all their efforts in coding OS4 and MorphOS.  Old applications could still run with 68k emulation.  Thus Amiga hardware would be cheap and easily available.  I know this would leave Eyetech, DCI and the likes out in the cold, but it would've ensured the uptake of Amiga operating systems.  Unlike BeOS and others, MorphOS and OS4 could've counted on legions of Amiga users to buy, use, develop and evangelise their benefits vis a vis Windows and other bloatware.  

AROS seems to be heading in this direction, we'll see what the future holds for this interesting development.

Alas, this is just a 'what if' scenario.  The sooner we resolve this Amiga Inc mystery, the better!

Jethro Tull
 

Offline Coder

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2003, 04:10:54 PM »
Hi,

But OS4 is in hands of Hyperion, right? I mean, if Amiga gets taken over or goes out of business then OS4 remains at Hyperion. Part of the deal they made. Correct?

Don't you just love it to go on wild guessing? :-D

Since no one comes with a straight answer instead of some meaningless words, this is all we can do. I know some things cannot be said. SDA, NDA, BDA, NBA etc :-D

Coder
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Offline Cojo

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2003, 04:47:38 PM »
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If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP

... i would by a pc right then... and i mean it
 

Offline cgutjahr

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2003, 05:57:42 PM »
@mdma:

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Genesi buy the rights to Amiga IP. No "Dongle" required, you can run AOS4 when it comes ot on the choice of motherboard you want, just like you can with Windows/Linux/DOS,


How do you come to *this* conclusion? Currently MOS runs on Pegasos, and it will be released for Classic Amigas equipped with PPC accellerators. That's about it, dongle or not.

According to Mr. Buck, there will be no Teron/A1 version. A Mac version was announced, but last thing I heard about that project was that it would be a self-booting CD, acting as a kind of "content-engine" to deliver MOS applications to Mac users.

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be it an A1/Pegasos/Teron/Barbie/Apple/IBM or any boards that may be released in the future.


The Barbie has been "put on hold" according to the guy working on it. The only Teron reseller is Eyetech.

Your choices for a PPC motherboard currently are: Eyetech, Genesi, Apple. OS4 will run on Eyetech's offerings, MOS on Genesi's motherboard. If, when and how one of the operating systems will be available for Macs remains to be seen.
 

Offline kolla

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2003, 06:05:25 PM »
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hnl_dk wrote:
If Genesi would own the rights to the Amiga IP, then my next computer wouldn't be an Amiga!!!!


Then what would it be?

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How can you trust those guys???

For example bbrv!!!


Trust noone :)
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Offline Jose

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2003, 06:11:45 PM »
I think I'd leave the Amiga once and for all.
But it'd  be cool if Hyperion and Eyetech took over.
IMHO that would be the best thing that could happen.
 
\\"We made Amiga, they {bleep}ed it up\\"
 

Offline kolla

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2003, 06:12:47 PM »
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A Mac version was announced, but last thing I heard about that project was that it would be a self-booting CD, acting as a kind of "content-engine" to deliver MOS applications to Mac users.


Games, not applications - useless  games!  :-D
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A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
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A600/Apollo630/32MB
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM460 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2003, 06:16:32 PM »
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How do you come to *this* conclusion?


I was speculating.

I know I would rather run AOS4 on my hardware of choice, like I have been doing with DOS/Windows/Linux since 1993.  Proprietory hardware is dead, commodity hardware rules the roost now and always will.  If you can't beat them, join em. Imagine all the different taiwanese board manufacturers churning out POP motherboards in their millions and everyone knowing them as Amiga motherboards, just like people do now with PC motherboards.  Brand awareness is a powerfull thing.  If eyetech don't like the competition of different manufacturers or can't compete then they will fall by the wayside, but Hyperions product will keep going on and on as long as people want it and can run it on the hardware they choose
 

Offline JoannaK

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2003, 06:46:06 PM »
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Cojo wrote:
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If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP

... i would by a pc right then... and i mean it


Well. Go ahead. Having WindowseXP or some variant of Linux with new PC could give you some healthy perspective to real world  :roflmao:
 

Offline Housey

Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2003, 07:28:46 PM »
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Jose wrote:
I think I'd leave the Amiga once and for all.
But it'd  be cool if Hyperion and Eyetech took over.
IMHO that would be the best thing that could happen.
 


I agree, it would be nice if either Hyperion or Eyetech could take control of the IP (... and everything...).  The best thing Amiga Inc. could do right now is tell the truth be it good or bad.

I wouldn't usually comment but I now have some money at hand for an A1 or Peg so..
 

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Re: If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP
« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2003, 07:30:28 PM »
Hey Housey!

You have been missed.