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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2003, 03:57:22 PM »
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but in the end you will have destroyed a lot also.


I don't know about you sir, but I don't want to be any part of something the truth could destroy.  Truth is salvation.  The truth will set you free.  Sometimes the truth hurts.
 

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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2003, 04:01:19 PM »
I'll be honest. I own a Pegasos, yet am rarely believe statements coming from BBRV without proofs.

Despite that I used to believe Wayne's best intents, and proofs seem to come in - I still cannot believe it.

Maybe it's something to do with that I believed in all AIncs before, till the last moment.

Or in another words, as maybe a "heretic" in cheerleaders eyes I cannot believe it, as it is too nice to be true.

Whatever, I warn you: expect popcorn shortages soon. :-)
 

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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2003, 04:13:08 PM »
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Wayne wrote:

I don't know about you sir, but I don't want to be any part of something the truth could destroy.  Truth is salvation.  The truth will set you free.  Sometimes the truth hurts.


Damn right, those are words to be read and understood. Don't close you eyes and ignore facts. Don't blinding follow any company simply because of a name. Opening your eyes and accepting the major faults of A-Inc doesnt mean you are anti OS4 or pro MOS! It means you enjoy reality!
Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2003, 04:34:31 PM »
Normally I love it when the information comes out.  But I don't understand why threads keep getting pulled from various websites, and if
something is so wrong as to be pull a thread, maybe that something
can't be discussed either...heck I don't know anymore.

I just know I don't find it enjoyable to participate in this discussion.
But, I still glad others are talking, I guess I will do something unusual for me....just sit back and read.

oh heck, I can't help myself...I do know one thing, if a new CEO
has been in place for months, its ashame how much his control of
the corporate website is lacking.
 

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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2003, 04:39:48 PM »
Stop messing about and ask the cover up king himself,

 

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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2003, 04:43:13 PM »
@Paul

AAARGHH!! Damn I wish that violated something so I could yank it;-)
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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2003, 04:50:15 PM »
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I sure wish that violated something


hmmm... copyright law?  :-D but don't take it down, its funny ;)
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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2003, 05:07:09 PM »
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I know that's hard for some to accept, but the people who have trouble accepting it are the same people who don't understand that Anti-Amiga Inc does NOT equal Pro {insert company X}.


Sorry Wayne,
it's either Pro Amiga Inc or Pro Genesi.
Those who don't care at all have long left the platform. Where "Pro" doesn't mean you follow blindly, you just trust this company more than the other. It 's difficult to hate them of love them equally unless you are an A500 user having moved to Windoze 95 when it came along.

Well, it's hard for me to trust anything from Genesi, Bill Buck et al and I DO care about Amiga as a platform so that makes me Pro Amiga Inc. I have been disappointed with the company so far but I can live with it.

Regarding Peck's issues and Amiga Inc status I am interested in hearing the other side first.
 

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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2003, 05:20:02 PM »
Point taken Wayne, but still, BBRV isn't much better then Amiga Inc at the end of the day.  It's simply unfair of him of using Amiga Inc's troubles for his own profit, when he did much, much worse himself.  

People lost a lot of money and companies went bankrupt because of Mr.Buck, don't forget it!
 

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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2003, 05:29:13 PM »
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Regarding Peck's issues and Amiga Inc status I am interested in hearing the other side first.


Are you kidding? All you'll get (if *anything* at this point) is "Everything is on shedule and rockin'!"  :-P
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2003, 05:35:32 PM »
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I don't get your point. Gensi(bbrv) has a product that actually ships. If you like that product you buy it. Amiga Inc's only product I can see at the moment that actually ships is the WinCE game pack at CompUSA. If you like that product you buy it. All this soap opera is to us should only be entertainment. Has bbrv said things that people can find annoying or wrong? Probably. Has Fleecy and BillMC? Yup. Has Bill Gates? Absolutely. If you were to base product purchases soley on what a senior officer at the respective company has been known to say, you would never buy anything. That goes for Pepsi, American AirLines, Microsoft, McDonlads etc

Henry Ford and Walt Disney were known nazi sympathisers. Have you ever driven in a Ford or went to Disney World? And this is a more extreme example.
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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2003, 05:50:48 PM »
A very sad story indeed.

 

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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2003, 05:53:42 PM »
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Point taken Wayne, but still, BBRV isn't much better then Amiga Inc at the end of the day.


Why?  Because he's point blank and abrasive?  Because he isn't afraid to call it like he sees it?  BBRV isn't easy to take for everyone, and I agree that he can be his own worst enemy with his aggressive style and mannerisms but he's done nothing here but deliver a product.

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It's simply unfair of him of using Amiga Inc's troubles for his own profit, when he did much, much worse himself.
Again, I must ask you "Why?"  What is so "unfair" about using standard business tactics (and it *is* standard) to compete?

Remember folks, this isn't personal for him or Amiga Inc.  This is business.  

I don't know about BBRV's "past history".  In part, because in this current situation between Genesi and the Amiga, his past history is not relevant.  The only relevant thing here is

1)  the fact that BBRV told the truth (no matter how much you HATE the bitter truth, want to blame him for it, or want to claim the contrary) -- whether appropriate or not for him to do so is debatable --

2) Genesi is, and has been actively and openly supporting the Amiga community including Web sites as well as it's members.  This is more than can be said for Amiga Inc (not counting shows) though I honestly wish it had come about differently.

In the end -- and this seems like the end to me -- Bill McEwen and Fleecy Moss are fully responsible for their own actions and the fate of Amiga Inc.  No one else.

Remember one thing here folks.  *IF* Amiga Inc folds (and I hope that they don't, I just hope the rumors of a re-org are true), that doesn't mean that your Amigas are any less useful than when Commodore folded.  The "death" of Amiga Inc should not affect the community because we will still be here, chugging away with Genesi, AND Hyperion / Eyetech.  Only the "middle man" would be different.
 

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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2003, 06:07:59 PM »
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Remember one thing here folks. *IF* Amiga Inc folds (and I hope that they don't,


I really hope they do, they have gone to far now and the sooner they fold the better and hopefully some new fresh genuine people will take over and actually do something.

The Amiga should be about the machine,community, instead of supporting a dodgy cowboy outfit just because they own the IP.
 

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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2003, 06:11:31 PM »
The Truth is the first victim of any conflict.
 

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Re: Testimony from former AInc developer, Mr Peck (?)
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 02, 2003, 06:12:50 PM »
Good taste?