The AmigaOne is NOT "just a Teron board"!

[pioneer]

Here's an interesting question for you. In these days of game systems with 60-frame animation and surround sound, what would it take to impress people -- 3D? For something to be as far ahead of everything else as the original Amiga was when it was introduced would take something truly fantastic, something not invented yet. Is it really even reasonable to expect such a thing from any computer?

[Paul_Gadd]

Eyetech are a complete joke and most other amiga shops are a complete joke, They get standard hardware stick a "Works with amiga" badge on it and sell it for something daft like 6 - 8 x  the price for exactly the same product just because it works on the amiga,

Just look at the prices of PCI cards,  cables, cdrw drives,dvd drives, ide harddrives, ide leads and other standard every day hardware on eyetechs website and see how pathetic the waste of time amiga shops hide behind the "Works on amiga" nonsence just to try and screw the obsessed die hards out of silly money.

And with eyetechs shoddy tactics it would not supprise me if the A1 board was actually a cheapish board with some little modifications then they bang a extra 200 EUR,GBP because they know the die hards will by any old tat just because it will run AOS.

[Glaucus]

wouldnt that make all the more sense to bring their OS onto it's platform? to 'compete' with it?

That's not what is being argued here.  In fact, if it were up to me, if i was incharge of Amiga Inc I'd go out of my way to make it run on the Pegasos just to make it harder for MorphOS.  I would buy a bunch of pegasos boards, license the AmigaOS to myself and sell Pegasos boards with the OS4 BootBIOS myself along with OS4.  That would maintain complete control of the license agreament and still position the platform to compete with MorphOS on it's home turf.  In the end Thendic would be begging me for a license deal of their own.

  - Mike

[Glaucus]

Hey mips_proc, just thought I'd mention that your avatar looks like a cowboy holding a flag in one hand a cock blowing it's load in another.  That's a bit weird, shouldn't the cock be between the guy's legs?!?   8-)

  - Mike

for me it isnt a question of bieng impressed....I honestly dont think there is anything amiga could do to impress anyone at this stage it's all been done or is bieng done PC's with Windows...
I like AmigaOS and what would make me happy is AOS X86...or at leat AOS-PPC (on whatever PPC hardware you can hack it onto).

cock blowing it's load in another. That's a bit weird, shouldn't the cock be between the guy's legs?!?

maybe you could draw that and It would be more interesting comming from you...you could stick a 'boing ball' on him and sell him for a few bucks to a zealot who likes Amiga/Stick Man/Perverse art...

[seer]

@Glaucus,

Hey mips_proc, just thought I'd mention that your avatar looks like a cowboy holding a flag in one hand a .........<>

That's suppose to be a joke ? Or to give the moderators something to do ?

[ksk]

>"Old" TeronCX = "Old" AmigaOne G3SE

No. Old Teron CX was the board demonstrated by Eyetech in spring 2002, they did not insist that it was the final AmigaOneG3-SE, I've read Alan admitting that it is a TeronCX. At some point they might have called it a developer board, or a prototype, though... (or the protos were really the new revision already, incapable of running TurboLinux)
I think those ~15 dev boards that were shipped during summer were already with ATA100 etc, while MAI still listed the old Teron at their web page.

>"New" TeronCX = "New" A1 G3SE, as per the specs officially listed by Eyetech

No. New TeronCX + dongle is the AmigaOneG3-SE. There is no old AmigaOneG3-SE. The specs have been the same for A1 since AmigaOne the PCI daughtercard was discarded.


(it might be that new teronCX would not have existed without A1G3SE developer guys / eyetech interest)

[DethKnight]

$600 u.s. would buy me a Toshiba e740.
is amigaDE there?

[Graak]

Even if the AmigaOneSE/XE boards are identical to the Teron CX/PX boards, does it really matter? I mean, what difference does it make?

I guess that this is just the usual nitpicking from the never-happy-with-anything crowd..

[Seehund]

samface wrote:

"Old" AmigaOne G3SE??? Please share whatever you're smokin'...

I roll my own and I smoke a pipe, but there's nothing besides tobacco in it...

Yes, the old A1 G3SE. The one bandied about on various shows/occations, with a "don't worry, it's the 'developer' version" disclaimer. The one photographed over and over again. The VT82C686A SB one. The TeronCX "evaluation board."

Again, there was no revision 2 of the Teron CX when the A1 G3SE was announced and the specifications for the two boards did not match back then.

Samface, "announced" does not equal "for sale" or even "in production."

The "commercial" revision of the TeronCX is the "new" A1 G3SE. I don't see why that is so controversial, or why you consider it's "trolling" to say it.

So much blah blah blah but in the end we're all followers of the AMIGA.

Want a proof? This is a site for amigans! Full of amigans!
Well some are disguised, but they don't stop babling about AMIGA.

[Seehund]

Graak wrote:
Even if the AmigaOneSE/XE boards are identical to the Teron CX/PX boards, does it really matter? I mean, what difference does it make?

Exactly. What's the fuss about? Where's the controversy that some people see? Why is it taboo in some groups to say it? Why were Eyetech trying to deny it initially?

I don't want any "special" hardware, there are no more Amigas. I want to buy AmigaOS and install it on hardware of my choice from the vendor I choose. People who want to buy AmigaOS shouldn't have to give a crap about hardware trademarks and licenses, only valid things like price, performance, availability and compatibility.

[Paul_Gadd]

Have you helped saving AmigaOS and a free PPC hardware market today?

Nice page, comments on there are spot on,

Some nice quotes

"Please don't kill the Amiga off with restricted hardware!"

"yes this Amigaone is a DEAD DUCK, Who is going to pay loads of money for a slow restricted piece of junk!!!!!!!!!"

"Amiga is a software company, it makes no sense to restrict the hardware choices."

"get your arse in to 2002 instead of the 90`s"

"If AmigaOS wants to live, it has to be flexible...."

"Just give the buyer/user a great OS that will run on the users' choice of hardware."

"This will definately put the final nail in the Amigas coffin"

"if you want the AmigaOS market to grow, then please use every chance to!!"

"Your being crazy, THEWORLDS going open, and YOUR closing the doors!!"

"Is this what I've been waiting for all these years? Don't strangle a market that's already choking..."

"Don't alienate your target audience!"

"I'd just like to run os4 on the fastest ppc hardware i can find. nobody likes to be limited."

"You sure took a long time to kill the Amiga. Bastards"

"It's not 1980's any more,"

"I won't buy closed hardware."

"No crippled computer wanted"

"Please don't kill the Amiga (again) before it's had a chance!"

"Please, don't kill what's left of the Amiga community, please be more cooperative"

"compatibility is the future, proprietary is the past"

"Shooting yourselfs in the foot is stupid and will finish what little is left of Amiga once and forever"

[Glaucus]

maybe you could draw that and It would be more interesting comming from you...you could stick a 'boing ball' on him and sell him for a few bucks to a zealot who likes Amiga/Stick Man/Perverse art...

Hey, let's not forget I'm not the one who drew it!  

I'm just buggin ya, although unfortunately I can no longer look at that avatar and not burst out laughing....  Although bak_2_amiga's avatar is by far the best!  I'm gonna have to send that to my ex, she loves Linux!

Hmmm...  Perhaps I will have to come up with my own "art".

  - Mike

[Tigger]

Graak wrote:
Even if the AmigaOneSE/XE boards are identical to the Teron CX/PX boards, does it really matter? I mean, what difference does it make?

Why does it matter??
1) This thread was started by someone saying they werent the same board, to everyone who knows they are, thats a pretty silly statement, those who believe in the divinity of Eyetech continue to argue the point that they are different.   Apparently if you are an Eyetech employee, touch a board and say in a load commanding voice "You are an Amiga" it becomes so, otherwise you are just an unclean Linux board.
2) It points out the lies told to the Amiga Community by Eyetech in relation to the cost of these boards.  Since they arent designing them or building them, it is silly that they are much more expensive with the Eyetech Rom then without the Eyetech rom.   At LinuxWorld is became quite apparent that Eyetech is making a pretty good premium from each board.  
3) Makes it quite apparent that the OS is becoming dongalized (ala XP, though worse) when only "Eyetech" Teron boards will run the OS.  I am very curious how we are going to see 4.0 on the Phase5 boards as I am sure the folks behind the Teron rom dongle arent going to just let you install 4.0 on your PPC amiga without some hoop to jump through.  
     -Tig