The AmigaOne is NOT "just a Teron board"!

[Seehund]

samface wrote:

Now would be a good time to serve the proof, the accusations are starting to become stronger than our stomachs can digest.

What accusations? And why the pluralis maiestatis? I think you're pretty alone in regarding a statement like "company X does not design motherboards, they're a distributor" as an accusation! It's a damn business description.

That's not what their website used to say.

I know, I found the "$3,900" or whatever it is listed so odd that I actually e-mailed them a question about it and got a clarifying reply... A revolutionary concept, this e-mail thing.

[Seehund]

ShadesOfGrey wrote:

BUT this does not preclude licensing terms for a 'retail' or 'consumer' version not bundle with hardware (well, beyond a USB/serial/parallel dongle).

Do you concede this?

No, I don't, neither does AInc in their marketing announcements nor in their (and others'...)  subsequent "clarifications"; "we aren't going to sell a shrink wrap" and so on and so on.

Unless otherwise explicitly stated, this message is not meant to affirm nor deny, defend nor offend any faction within the 'Amiga' Community.

LOL! Excellent disclaimer! Sucks that it's apparently needed though.

[samface]

The "anti piracy" excuse is so transparent. It's only function is as a hardware-license verification mechanism, it cannot hinder software piracy.

Eeeehh... Talk about not seeing the point. Why would anyone *want* to piracy the OS if it's bundled with the hardware? I wasn't talking about trying to hinder piracy, it's about removing the need for it through making it a part of the hardware purchase.

You see my posts without reading them, Seehund.

[samface]

Seehund wrote:

ShadesOfGrey wrote:

BUT this does not preclude licensing terms for a 'retail' or 'consumer' version not bundle with hardware (well, beyond a USB/serial/parallel dongle).

Do you concede this?

No, I don't, neither does AInc in their marketing announcements nor in their (and others'...)  subsequent "clarifications"; "we aren't going to sell a shrink wrap" and so on and so on.

Because you don't want to. It would be pretty hard admitting your mistake after collecting all those signatures for your petition and stating your disillusions as facts all over the net, over and over again, now wouldn't it, Emanuel?

I'm sorry but you've painted yourself into a corner and nothing you do will get you out of there now. Keep painting and your corner will only get smaller.

[jahc]

@Seehund

I'm so sick of your "its not an amiga" campaign that you've been raging in comments on just about every AmigaOne news story on the web.

It doesnt matter that its not designed by Amiga Inc or based on older Amiga technology. It's been badged "Amiga", and runs AmigaOS, so it's an Amiga.

Look at consoles. A gameboy advance is still a nintendo, even though its technologically far different to say, an N64.

Just shut the #### up and get over it already.

[Damion]

Sorry Samface, although I agree with some of your points, the only agenda twisting I see is by A-Inc and Craptech.

 Not to say it won't be a decent product, but IT IS OBVIOUS that they are in the fine business of BS procurement, when they create the illusion that the AONE isn't dongled and OS4 would run on other systems. Maybe they didn't OUTRIGHT say it, but it sounds like good 'ol American market training to me!

@Paul_Gadd:
 Right on! Eyetech's prices are a total rip...they didn't design anything, they're just profiting on cheap hardware and calling it 'special for the A-1'...I don't care what they sell and call A1, I just wish they'd all be a bit more straightforward and drop the Capn' AmeriCo attitude.

[ShadesOfGrey]

"we aren't going to sell a shrink wrap"

I have not seen any such declaration by Amiga Inc., Hyperion, or Eyetech.  Mind telling me where this was said and by whom?

LOL! Excellent disclaimer! Sucks that it's apparently needed though.

Yes...  Yes it is.

[AmiGR]

They did WHAT!?
AHAHAHHAHA!
LOL.... Tell you what, Amiga Inc has NOTHING to do
with OS4 or the AmigaONE...as  BH said in the
interview, he's now the AmigaOS licence holder
and can develop it further as much as he wants.
In a previews thread it was mentioned that if
Amiga Inc. wants OS4 they'll have to buy the sources
back from Hyperion for a sum of money.
Admit it, Amiga Inc lost the control of AmigaOS,
Hyperion has it now and IMHO, it's MUCH better now
that relying on those guys.... Amiga Inc is unreliable
at best.... And about the AmigaONE, the AmigaONE
spec is Zico, the AmigaONE from eyetech doesn't
meet that. So... once again... The Eyetech AmigaONE
is NOT Amiga Inc.'s spec....

Samface, your Amiga Inc is dead for the Amiga
community. They are doing nothing for it.
I also am quite sure that they will not survive for more than a year...

[AmiGR]

Wrong, their name is Mentor ARC Incorporated...

[AmiGR]

The Terron CX board could use 4x PCI and AGP at
the same time, but: The AGP port would fall down
to the speed of the card in the 4th slot, so forget
AGP 2x, it would be either 1x (66mhz) or even less
(33mhz). The same is true about the AmigaONE.
There were also some probs in the BIOS that might
make what you said true, but the BIOS by itself doesn't make a different board...

[AmiGR]

You wish... What you say is misinformation and is
not true but I can't reveal my source...

[AmiGR]

The AmigaONE is what Eyetech could get from the
Terron CX *WITHOUT* changing the PCB layout.
The Terron & "AmigaONE" PCBs are the same.

[samface]

@AmiGR:

Where do you get all this from? You're so totally disillusioned that I even don't know where to start...

Sure, Amiga Inc. just bought the name for screwing the Amiga community. This is all just a very expensive prank pulled off by Bill McEwan & Co. Whatever, man...  :roll:

[seer]

@AmiGR,

Nice to see you post so much in one go, but who are you replying/adressing ?

And saying something isn't true but not allowed to reveal your sdorce, well is a little weak argument wouldn't say ? Everybody can say; "my source tells me you are wrong, but I can't tell you my source."

[seer]

Where do you get all this from? You're so totally disillusioned that I even don't know where to start...

:-D  :-D  :-D  :-D

[AmiGR]

Samface, you know very well, that I'm in good terms
with people with a CLOSE relation to MAI... Want
another hint of how do I know it? Mind you, the
Terron boards were evaluated by those people
more than a year before Eyetech even learned about
MAI...