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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #59 from previous page: May 02, 2003, 08:49:34 AM »
@Wittgenstein

Don't sweat it. In the words of Shakespeare, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."  :lol:
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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #60 on: May 02, 2003, 09:59:26 AM »
Some people (including myself) cannot realise, or forget, we're dealing with microscopic companies nowadays.

How many people do Amiga Inc., Eyetech or Genesi employ?  What are there assets, capital etc  These small outfits depend totally on larger companies for the manufacturing, shipping, testing and packaging of their products.  And since they're so small, they don't have a lot of control on these processes, more so when things go wrong.  

It's not their fault, the sad truth is that the Amiga has shrunk to a diminutive niche market, that larger companies wouldn't bother getting into.  However, the internet can alter our perception of such companies.  For example, I would expect sterling service when shopping in a huge multi storey shop but be lineant if I entered a small, family run shop.  However, on the internet, there's no indication of wether you're dealing with a sizeable company or a tiny outfit.  

Subtle hints, like the Genesi top guy attacking every user like a rabid dog, or Amiga Inc's wankers talking endlessly about nothing, might shed light on the true nature of these companies.  

This is not a complaint!  I am prepared to put up with all of it, since I still use and support my Amigas.  Yes, I'm sceptical, like a lot of other people here.   But I still have faith in the Amiga community, and I feel we're closer then ever to our goal.

Genesi have delivered a disappointing, half baked product.  But Eyetech has come up with the goods, and if Hyperion follow suite, I won't mind waiting for months or paying relativly high prices for my machine.  At the end of the day, what counts is having a powerfull, brand new Amiga Computer on my desk!!
 

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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #61 on: May 02, 2003, 11:07:30 AM »
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Genesi have delivered a disappointing, half baked product. But Eyetech has come up with the goods, and if Hyperion follow suite, I won't mind waiting for months or paying relativly high prices for my machine. At the end of the day, what counts is having a powerfull, brand new Amiga Computer on my desk!!


LOL! Are you serious here or joking?
 

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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #62 on: May 02, 2003, 11:14:00 AM »
I'm watching the IBM PPC970 closely to see how this plays out.
 

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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #63 on: May 02, 2003, 11:14:39 AM »
@Jethro_Tull
Genesi have delivered a disappointing, half baked product. But Eyetech has come up with the goods, and if Hyperion follow suite, I won't mind waiting for months or paying relativly high prices for my machine. At the end of the day, what counts is having a powerfull, brand new Amiga Computer on my desk!!
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Thanks for the information. Always nice to see helpful people who haven't used Pegasos/MorphOS even one second.

Thanks again. You are ACE!
 

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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #64 on: May 02, 2003, 11:48:46 AM »
@ Dart & Hooligan

oops! Treaded on the Genesi supporter toes!

Did you read the reviews guys?  Did you notice the complaints?  I haven't endured the pain of using sMurfOS, true, but shouldn't you two shut up until the OS you're trumpeting about works correctly?   When the peg. and sMurfOS deliver the goods, I'll consider investing in one, and you two can post happily praising the virtues of sMorfOS, but at the moment, there isn't really anything to get excited about.

You shouldn't never knock down other systems, more so when the one you're defending is choke full of bugs, unstable, runs only a handfull of titles and barely works.

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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #65 on: May 02, 2003, 11:58:43 AM »
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In fact, the A1 is the worst possible choice you can make


Are you saying this because you have one and actually know what you are talking about, or are you just guessing?

You're not exactly making your judgement sound credible.
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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #66 on: May 02, 2003, 12:06:26 PM »
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Hooligan_DCS wrote:

Thanks for the information. Always nice to see helpful people who haven't used Pegasos/MorphOS even one second.

Thanks again. You are ACE!


I am surprised at your sense of justice. I wonder, however,  what stopped you from stepping up when Targhan posted an equally biased posting..?

Ah, don't bother to reply.
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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #67 on: May 02, 2003, 01:10:59 PM »
> oops! Treaded on the Genesi supporter toes!

Pfffffft.. I am my own free agent, waiting to for the right team to pick me and get signed! :-D


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Did you read the reviews guys? Did you notice the complaints? I haven't endured the pain of using sMurfOS, true, but shouldn't you two shut up until the OS you're trumpeting about works correctly? When the peg. and sMurfOS deliver the goods, I'll consider investing in one, and you two can post happily praising the virtues of sMorfOS, but at the moment, there isn't really anything to get excited about.

You shouldn't never knock down other systems, more so when the one you're defending is choke full of bugs, unstable, runs only a handfull of titles and barely works.
 


Could you please quote me where I, Darth_X, knock either the Pegasos or Teron/AmigaOne boards? Am I NOT allowed to post critism towards either/or/any product?

And furthermore, DO NOT make up things about me. I have never said AmigaOS4 is "full of bugs, unstable, runs only a handfull of titles and barely works."

NEVER SAID THAT!!!!!!  ;-)


And how could I? I have never sat down and tried AmigaOS4, I haven't fired up an amiga in a long time either.

In 2 days, I will be however sitting down and trying a Pegasos with MorphOS for the first time. It should be interesting and I'll post my results here! :-D

As a I'm from the audio/music point of view, I was *initially* disappointed to see that the only audio support provided was basically AHI.. and this is for both systems. (AHI is not so bad after reading up a bit on it)

However, I see this as a great opportunity for myself and others to build a new audio system for this market from scratch!

But finding people with the audio/MIDI/Music background in this market now is incredibly difficult.

Something to consider: if the CEO of a large Pro Audio company were to check this site out, I honestly think they would NOT want to support this market. Too many crazy/psychotic people here..

What do you think?

I think we need to change things around here, and focus on building this market up.

In other words, if we WANT it.. we need to BUILD it!


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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #68 on: May 02, 2003, 01:14:06 PM »
@ Jethro_Tull

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How many people do Amiga Inc., Eyetech or Genesi employ? What are there assets, capital etc


Here is my guess (based on recent happenings, announcements, and now latest this):

As for Amiga Inc's employees (recieving monthly payments), I would guess you could count them on one hands fingers (propably even half of that), and my guess is that they are "all" top management recently put there by the biggest owner to salvage what they can. Besides that, there is Fleecy and Ray A Akay, trying hard to keep up appearance.

As for Amiga Inc's assets, capital, etc - None! Nada! Zero! Debts? Wow, now we are talking! If you have a claim towards Amiga Inc, better get in the line ASAP. Not that there is a big chance of actually getting any ...

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Genesi have delivered a disappointing, half baked product.


What the h-ll are you talking about? Disappointing - NO! Half baked, certainly not the hardware, and MorphOS is in it's current state *very usable*, even though it still lacks some of the announced features (mostly bundled software). But evolutions moves on fast and we (the users) are all part of it as either spectators or players. I have not seen any comment this far by someone that is disappointed!
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #69 on: May 02, 2003, 01:32:44 PM »
Hello,

"Did you read the reviews guys?  Did you notice the complaints?  I haven't endured the pain of using sMurfOS, true, but shouldn't you two shut up until the OS you're trumpeting about works correctly?   When the peg. and sMurfOS deliver the goods, I'll consider investing in one, and you two can post happily praising the virtues of sMorfOS, but at the moment, there isn't really anything to get excited about.

You shouldn't never knock down other systems, more so when the one you're defending is choke full of bugs, unstable, runs only a handfull of titles and barely works."

Sorry but I think you've never used a recent MorphOS.
Personnaly, I'm a user of MorphOS, AmigaOS 3.x (can't use 4.x sorry as it's not available yet), MacOS X, Linux, BeOS and I had used QNX, FreeBSD, Amithlon, AROS.

And between all this OSes the one I prefer is.... Yes MorphOS! Why? Because:

1) It's rock stable (yes it's, you like it or not). I've no stability problem with MorphOS. I use it everyday for work and fun without crashing. I only crash when using alpha/beta software which are even not related with MorphOS. And i'm not the only one being impressed by the stability. All the people I know who have a Pegasos with MorphOS told me also that they were impressed by it.

2) It's the fastest OS in the world for now.

3) I can use all the AmigaOS 3.x apps I have been used to use and that I like.

4) And of course I can use the new PPC software developped for MorphOS

So please stop posting about things you have no good knowledge about it.

Maybe AmigaOS 4 will be better than MorphOS and maybe not. Nobody knows.
For now MorphOS is the only solution available. You may not like that, but that's the REALITY. And it's a good solution, I really like it.

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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #70 on: May 02, 2003, 01:38:04 PM »
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I am surprised at your sense of justice. I wonder, however,  what stopped you from stepping up when Targhan posted an equally biased posting..?

Ah, don't bother to reply.


Actually I do bother as I have not read such posting.  
I just replied to the first comment on page 4.  Believe or not, I don't have time to read every comment posted here on daily basis.
 

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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #71 on: May 02, 2003, 01:47:54 PM »
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Believe or not, I don't have time to read every comment posted here on daily basis.


And are you going to comment now that you know?
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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #72 on: May 02, 2003, 05:16:20 PM »
@ Dart
I never said anything like that!  As you've rightfully stated, OS4 isn't out yet!  I was criticising all those who jumped at every opportunity at bashing the A1/OS4!  Infact, I totally agree on all the points you make, regarding the Audio market for our machine.  Even though I am not attracted by the Pegasos / MorphOS option, I sincerely hope you succeed in your goal of making them a viable audio platform.

@Hooligan
you're the ACE boss!  Write something worth reading for once mate!  I don't have time to read every post in every thread either, but I've yet to see something written by you which is original and/or constructive.  Take you med. you need it!!!

@Helgis
stick to your plans mate, eventually, when you'll fit your m.board in that ATX case, install OS4 and start enjoying your system, you'll forget about all this!

@Frode
although, I never used MorphOS myself.  I find it really hard to beleive you.  How can MorphOS be better then ALL the operating systems you've listed, when others complain of frequent crashed, incompatibilities and essential features missing.  I know if you REALLY want to like something you will, no matter what, but still........   my regards to Gollum.


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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #73 on: May 02, 2003, 05:42:51 PM »
Hello,

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although, I never used MorphOS myself.  I find it really hard to beleive you.  How can MorphOS be better then ALL the operating systems you've listed, when others complain of frequent crashed, incompatibilities and essential features missing.  I know if you REALLY want to like something you will, no matter what, but still........   my regards to Gollum.


I said: I prefer MorphOS over the other OS i've listed.
I never said: MorphOS is better than these OSes.

I can't say that and nobody can, as the apreciation of an OS is personal and depend on what you expect from it.

All I can say is that MorphOS is very very stable, works great and have a very good comaptibility.
I'm speaking about the actual version of MorphOS, not some old version people have tested in 2002 during shows.

I don't know who you are talking about when you speak about people complaining. But I'm sure that's either old complains about old version of MorphOS or people who tried it just 5 mins during a show still with an old version and maybe some buggy software installed.

All the people I know who have a Pegasos with MorphOS are happy with it and impressed by the stability and the compatibility of the system.

The way you're thinking is just like if you had said:

AmigaOS is crap as I tried AmigaOS 1.0 and it crashed all the time.
Or: AmigaOS (any version) is crap because it crash when I use MetalWeb.

In the first case, it's an old version of AmigaOS and so that's not because this old version was buggy that the more recent one like 1.3, 2.0, 3.1, 4.0... are/will be also buggy.
In the second case, it's an application which is buggy (here MetalWeb) and crash the system. That obviously doesn't imply that the OS is also buggy.

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Re: Eyetech must get the speed up! NO MORE WAITING!!!
« Reply #74 on: May 02, 2003, 07:07:45 PM »
The great thing is we could argue until we are all blue in the face, but it won't solve a single issue.

So, here's what I suggest.  Pack up some luggage, and take a trip to a local show/convention where both systems/OS-es will be on display. In the U.S., that will be AmiWest.  

Why speculate, when you can see it for yourselves?  
Regards,
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