How to use a newer 68040.library on a BPPC?

[Piru]

@AmigaMance

"Not working" as in "unable to disable the flash based 68040.library", in which case it would be identical to leaving the module out.

Either that or there are some serious issues with BPPC 040 without the 68040.library to set up the caches, mmu tables etc.

[srg86]

Piru wrote:
Either that or there are some serious issues with BPPC 040 without the 68040.library to set up the caches, mmu tables etc.

Interesting, I just got a BPPC 040 and I've found that it's most stable with no 040 libraries at all. With the built in 040 library, I get errors from C:Version, C:list and C:mount in my startup-sequence. Usually #80000004, #8000000A or #8000000B. Strangely they only do it once, so one boot for Version, reboot and then Mount and then another reboot and List, another reboot and then they are fine.:-?   Also Wordworth 2 AGA, once loaded, only its menus work, the rest just does nothing. With no libs at all (BPPCFix) it just works.

I mainly want it for fiddling arround with programming an 040 and PPC at the system level, just for fun. I've got a Blizzard 1260 on it's say so I'll use that or my 1230IV for AmigaOS (KS 3.0 and WB 3.0).

BTW, what is the difference between the phase 5 and the commodore 68040 libraries, what do they have to do differenty to work? How is the BPPC's 040 different to the A4000/040 or a standard 040 accelerator card?

 

[Piru]

BTW, what is the difference between the phase 5 and the commodore 68040 libraries, what do they have to do differenty to work?

P5 680x0.library has some new API functions to allow the P5 commandline tools to modify MMU mapping in a consistent way. Also, the P5 libs include support for more hardware (obviously, since they're newer). Also, the 0x0 libs in BPPC also use some special MMU map setup to allow system to work properly with the dual 68k / PPC setup.

How is the BPPC's 040 different to the A4000/040 or a standard 040 accelerator card?

From 040 side of things, nothing much. MMU setup is a bit different to most other cards, but nothing user programs should worry about.

[srg86]

@Piru:

I see, is there anywhere I can find out where the extra parts of the BPPC cards are mapped into the address space?

[Piru]

@srg86

Dump the existing MMU table with some tool?

[Nickman]

What is the newest version of 68040.library that i can use with my BPPC ? And where can i get it ?

[srg86]

I'll look at Enforcer, that has one. I wonder if there are any for 68030 and 68851 systems, I'll have a look.

The MuTools look good as well.

[djbase]

What is the newest version of 68040.library that i can use with my BPPC ? And where can i get it ?

The latest is 46.13 but is for G-REX normally.

http://grex.amigaworld.de/index.php?lang=en&page=39



 

[humppa]

The latest is 46.13 but is for G-REX normally.

...but it still works fine even when a Mediator is present instead of a G-Rex. So just flash it & problem is solved.

[Nickman]

humppa wrote:

The latest is 46.13 but is for G-REX normally.

...but it still works fine even when a Mediator is present instead of a G-Rex. So just flash it & problem is solved.

Oh so i guess the BPPCFix040 is realy not usable ? why remove it from the flash if there is no other (newer) library to load ?

[humppa]

Well, removing ppc.library or 68040.library are two different things.
Why don't you only remove ppc.library and keep 68040.library?

[srg86]

@humppa:

Because it doesn't make any difference.

[humppa]

Well, Nickman guessed that "BPPCFix040 is realy not usable".

Of course it is still usable, for removing ppc.library. Wether you choose to also keep 68040.library or instead use it from your HD instead doesn't really matter.

[Nickman]

humppa wrote:
Well, Nickman guessed that "BPPCFix040 is realy not usable".

Of course it is still usable, for removing ppc.library. Wether you choose to also keep 68040.library or instead use it from your HD instead doesn't really matter.

I use BlizKick and BPPCFix module to remove the ppc.library but what i wondered about was the BPPCFix040 that removes 68040.library. I don't even understand why it's available if ther is no new 68040.library to replace it with.

[srg86]

Beginning to think that the BPPC 68040 version of the card is a bit of a nightmare when it comes to libraries.

[doctorq]

Why? Both of mine are working fine with OS3.9 and WarpUP.