How to use a newer 68040.library on a BPPC?

[doctorq]

@itix

Sounds odd. And the BVision works fine without BPPCFix? What if you use BlizKick with the BPPCFix module?

@sgr86

Fair enough, if you can live without a graphics card :-) Just remember to install the libraries for the Blizzard 1260 when you get it.

[srg86]

doctorq wrote:
@sgr86

Fair enough, if you can live without a graphics card :-) Just remember to install the libraries for the Blizzard 1260 when you get it.

I've only ever had AGA anyway. I have PCs for anything better.

The libraries are already installed, ready to go.

[itix]

@doctorq

I was using BlizKick for a while but it stopped working at some point and I had to adjust my config.

[CLS2086]

Hi,
use the GREX firmware on your bppc+bvision, it works well for me ! and blitzkick works well too.

[AmigaMance]

Have you tryed to install in Libs: ALL the 680x0 set posted above? (the.new, .old and the little stub 040)

yes

 Have you tried to delete them and see if the BPPC cares about them at all?

[humppa]

use the GREX firmware on your bppc+bvision, it works well for me ! and blitzkick works well too.

Works also well here with a Mediator/Voodoo. I never understood why people without G-Rex were scared of flashing the latest versions. They just added a menu for G-Rex, not that they dumped Mediator-support or anything like that.

[Boot_WB]

srg86 wrote:
nteresting, I just got a BPPC 040 and I've found that it's most stable with no 040 libraries at all.........snip........With no libs at all (BPPCFix) it just works.

@srg86 - there is no need to install anything in libs:.
 
A question should solve this: does everything works fine when you remove the BPPCFIX command completely?  

I believe the problem here may be some confusion over the command structure of BPPCFIX here:

The command BPPCFIX alone will remove ppc.library but leave the flashed 68040 library resident.

The command BPPCFIX 040 will remove both ppc.library and 68040.library.  In this case without a replacement (suitable) 68040.library in your LIBS: drawer you can expect the gurus you've been describing.

@Framiga There is no need for 'stub' or 'dummy' libraries with the 68040.  srg86 has the 040, not the 060 version.

@Nick - Your post is a little confusing - you are using "BPPCFIX 040", not "BPPCFIX040" aren't you?  The 040 is an optional switch - there is no BPPCFIX040 command to call, therefore calling this would not remove 68040.library, and it would also not remove ppc.library.

[x56h34]

humppa wrote:

Works also well here with a Mediator/Voodoo. I never understood why people without G-Rex were scared of flashing the latest versions. They just added a menu for G-Rex, not that they dumped Mediator-support or anything like that.

Probably because Bvision support is out and Grex support (the PCI menu and cyberpci.library) is in. If you want to use Bvision you have to go for a pre-Grex firmware. I also remember that older Mediator drivers would not tolerate the built-in cyberpci.library very well, and I'd get crashes, particulary as soon as pci.library kicks in. This doesn't seem to happen anymore with the latest Mediator drivers though.

[Boot_WB]

itix wrote:
For me BPPCFix stopped working at some point. Or rather, it removed ppc.library but my BVision was gone as well.

I've just had to start with a fresh install after moving from Voodoo (Picasso96) to BVision (CGX) - just couldn't figure out what the problem was with my setup.  It all seems to be working ok now though.

Did you try using BPPCFIX >NIL: to prevent BPPCFIX opening a screen before startup-sequence loads the monitor drivers?  I'm not sure it makes a difference with the bvision, but it solved problems with "Intuition is attempting to blah-di-blah your screenmode" under Picasso96 (pain in the arse problem which meant changing the monitor output between Voodoo3 and AGA all the time when booting up).  I was so pleased when I figured that one out :-D


EDIT: 300 posts: all 8o11ock5 :lol:

[Piru]

Probably because Bvision support is out and Grex support (the PCI menu and cyberpci.library) is in. If you want to use Bvision you have to go for a pre-Grex firmware.

Nonsense. GREX flashupdate works just fine with BVision (I used it for years, thought I did use CGX4, maybe it doesn't work with older CGX?).

[CLS2086]

@Piro : may be, a fresh install is needed, because it's known to change the "address" of the card.
It works well for me too with CGX4 (around 10/20e on ebay or in shop...).

[Piru]

may be, a fresh install is needed, because it's known to change the "address" of the card.

Huh? At least CGX isn't depending on any fixed address. Or are you perhaps referring to Warp3D? Even there you just need to adjust one file in envarc:, no reinstall is needed.

[AmigaMance]

@Piru

GREX flashupdate works just fine with BVision (I used it for years, thought I did use CGX4, maybe it doesn't work with older CGX?).

 Are there any benefits in this update for the BVision users? Just asking.

[Piru]

You get the latest ppc.library and 680x0 libs.

[x56h34]

Piru wrote:

Nonsense. GREX flashupdate works just fine with BVision (I used it for years, thought I did use CGX4, maybe it doesn't work with older CGX?).

Really? It never worked for me. Interesting. Must have been a configuration problem then. I'll give it a try sometime in the future just to satisfy my curiosity. :-)

[srg86]

Success, it seemed to be a borked workbench installation.

I've installed the phase5 libraries for both the 040 and 060 (I've now got my Blizzard 1260). The BPPC uses it's built in libs though.

All is stable, though the 060 is still only detected as a 68040+68882.