Trying AOS 3.9 ... this is complete garbage!

[CHR_ZD]

By my understanding OS4 which has to be released yet will not fix these issues and won't be user friendly at all. I don't think it's a machine related problem but software related. And yes, I am telling you, this kind of OS can't compete on todays markets so if the OS4 will not be a total different story it will be a big flop from the beginning. (As it will be anyway since noone is going to change his modern PC with an overpriced amiga which can't even run a decent browser

[Flashlab]

No-one is saying here that AmigaOS4 will be the next Windows. So please don't look at the Amiga that way.

The message people are trying to give you that part of the fun in using Amigas nowadays is playing around with the OS. For me that includes solving those user-unfriendly quirks.

I just regard my Amigas as point and clicks adventures  :-P

Some people enjoy tinkering and making things work.  Others just want it to work and to not have to think about it.  If you're not part of the former group, the Amiga may not be for you.

Me personally, I would have loved making things work 10 years ago.  Now life is too short and there are too many other hobbies to go around.

Wayne

[jkirk]

while i can see where you are coming from i do not agree with your verdict. if this was the final release then yes there would be a major problem. it has problems nobody will dispute that but the work continues until it becomes what we want it to be.

this is only the first step in the resurrection of the amiga. the developers at hyperion do not have the resources and manpower of apple or microsoft so these things take immensely more time to implement.

now there was major changes between 1.3 and 3.1(3.9 is 3.1 with additional software bundled imo). visually it is noticable and functually it is noticable if you compare the two os versions. unfortunately commodore died and 3.1 was virtually unchanged until 4.0 and then it was just rewritten for use on ppc hardware. now that we are nearing the final release(hopefully)the next steps will be to improve the os. this is not to say there is no improvements already but instead improving on 4.0 and making it more user friendly.

if you want to get involved learn the os, identify what needs improvement, and help out by building programs to improve the os. we need all the help we can get.

[mr_a500]

CHR_ZD:
Just wondering, but did you buy 3.9 not knowing anything about it? Considering the fact that you don't own an Amiga, I'm assuming you got a pirate copy (correct me if I'm wrong). So, not only do you come here to complain about a pirated copy which may be screwed up already, but you whine about installing things that you haven't even read the documentation for.



I certainly won't defend 3.9 which I think is a joke (minor fixes on the 1993 WB 3.1), but Windows is absolute {bleep}! If Windows is an example of a "modern OS", I'd rather live in the past. Almost every single day I find a new bug in Windows or Office (which I am forced to use at work). I write them down when I find them. I have a list of over 1000 bugs!

Windows is user hostile. Many times I have spent hours configuring Windows & Office, only to have it randomly change settings back to default. Settings are stored in the registry and 10 different locations, making it impossible to back them up.

Every time I use Windows, I feel like smashing the computer, setting it on fire and whipping it out the window. (..but this may limit my time with the firm ;-) )

[MarkAshley]

Yerrrrrrrrr proper flame war  :flame:  
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Can this thread be locked before I die laughing please?

[Ancalimon]

amiga is dead. now back from the dead. we like undead.  :madashell:  :-D

[Argus]

Maybe he should try and run his beloved XP or Tiger on a 486 or Performa!  :-D

[m1screant]

@Wayne

Your right, he does have some valid points. But there is noexcuse for the way he puts them across. That sort of attitude will get him nowhere.

Perhaps hes just having a bad day, but he still a numpty muppet.

[c64_d0c]

CHR_ZD wrote:
By my understanding OS4 which has to be released yet will not fix these issues and won't be user friendly at all. I don't think it's a machine related problem but software related. And yes, I am telling you, this kind of OS can't compete on todays markets so if the OS4 will not be a total different story it will be a big flop from the beginning. (As it will be anyway since noone is going to change his modern PC with an overpriced amiga which can't even run a decent browser

finally someone that dare to say the truth among amigans... keep it coming!

[Revener]

Userr Friendlynes is a relative word, means differnts things for different users.
Personally I've had less actual problem swith AOS then Windows.
With AOS you usually have an idea what is wrong, when I was noob Amiga user wayback I fixed what didn't work myself. Usually its simple since they different parts of the OS are easy visible on the HD. The Startup sequence and the user-staturup are easy to edit. And if you don't know what you are doing and destroys something its usually fixable without reinstalling  the OS.

With Windows it either works or don't work and if it don't work you usually have no idead why and the error messages seldom help.

[leofoe]

Reacting to CHR_ZD's remarks the way some of you did, I believe is exactly what he's after.

[keropi]

Windows and AOS are in NO WAY comperable, for many reasons one with common sense can understand easily...

and as for the others complaining about windows, I have one think to say: if you buy crappy pc parts it's not the OS to blame... I have been using pc's for 13 years, and EVERY single problem I had with windows was either from CRAPPY hardware (anyone remember the VIA KT266 chipset? not the KT266A , just plain 266) OR from users installing CRAPPY software/drivers or having no idea to use a pc so they screw it up... this also applies to amiga world... and really, you are so narrow-minded that you cannot see the obvious? if windows were not good enough, everyone would use linux, or os2, or whatever would come up... just my 2 cents

[Doppie1200]

I wonder why I keep reading threads like these.
Maybe because the outcome is always so clear.

Let's play with emo's

A -> :furious: blabla I think Amiga is crap
B -> :-x No it isnt how can you say that
A -> :rtfm: Yes look it is not modern and can't compete
B -> :madashell: What #$%$^@@$&&%$#@%@%^
C -> :inquisitive: Look boys he might have a point
B -> :shocked: but...but...
D -> :admonish: ...some pro amiga speech...
E -> :admonish: ...some anti amiga speech...
? -> :argue:
? -> :flame: :nervous: :destroy:
? -> :angry: :angry: :angry: <-- more join the show
C -> :-D Threads closed. This is enough for today

Yawn....I need to get a life.

Damn,

If you're going to actually spell out the generic formula used for all Amiga forum posts (on all sites), then we're just gonna stop posting...  No fair...

Wayne

IS that a hint to lock the thread?  Are we done now?

Wayne