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Re: IBM G5/Power 5 in AmigaOne/Two ?
« Reply #14 from previous page: July 02, 2005, 06:26:11 AM »
I have heard that the cell cpus are for some reason limited to the usage of only 256meg ram max. I honestly dont know if this is really true, but it would not be a good thing if it was..
 

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Re: IBM G5/Power 5 in AmigaOne/Two ?
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2005, 12:46:53 PM »
It's true that Cell wasn't designed for desktop computing.

It was designed for general multimedia usage, something which the Amiga used to excell at.

Before you let yourself be dragged along by an ignoramus like Randy, take a look at this actual game footage from a CELL based PS3 dev box.

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748475/vids_1.html

Tell me again that this wouldn't be an excellent solution for an Amiga based system.
 

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Re: IBM G5/Power 5 in AmigaOne/Two ?
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2005, 01:42:47 PM »
> TO: Hyperion MP

Sony Director said that Defective Cell CPUs with only 6 SPE will be used on Home Server.

1. Is it possible to run Amiga OS 4.X for Cell on the Cell's PowerPC core only, without any SPE?

If this is possible, perhaps Eyetech / HW vendors can buy defective Cell CPUs for Amiga HW at low cost.

2. Is there any guarantee that there will be enough supply of defective Cell CPUs at low cost for future Amiga platform?

IBM had said that the main distribution priorities are for IBM, SONY, and Toshiba.

At present Eyetech is having problems with PowerPC availability.
 

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Re: IBM G5/Power 5 in AmigaOne/Two ?
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2005, 01:58:53 PM »
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Tell me again that this wouldn't be an excellent solution for an Amiga based system.


But who builds Cell based computer and who is ready to pay Amiga Inc for OS4 license? I doubt there are many... The Cell CPU alone doesnt make working system.
My Amigas: A500, Mac Mini and PowerBook
 

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Re: IBM G5/Power 5 in AmigaOne/Two ?
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2005, 02:31:06 PM »
Well, I'm sure many, especially some AMOS fans, would say that since Apple chose Intel, then Amiga should choose AMD-64. And I would agree.
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Re: IBM G5/Power 5 in AmigaOne/Two ?
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2005, 04:11:29 PM »
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Hyperion-Entertainment, of course.


Hyperion are a software company.

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Re: IBM G5/Power 5 in AmigaOne/Two ?
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2005, 08:31:25 PM »
@bloodline

Hyperion Entertainment is a software company and Sony is a hardware company.  I read in an interview that the hard drive attachment for the PlayStation 3 was going to come with Linux preinstalled but that the design would be open to other operating systems in the future.
 

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Re: IBM G5/Power 5 in AmigaOne/Two ?
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2005, 10:53:27 PM »
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Hyperion:  It was designed for general multimedia usage, something which the Amiga used to excell at.

Compatibility and support is what bothers me about the glut of console-type machines available -- the Amiga had a lot of problems with that if I remember correctly because developers obsessed more about the hardware than what their software should do.  Today's console maintain backwards compatibility through emulation, either via software or hardware.  If an e-mail program is written for a PS2, how do you run it simultaneously next to a native Cell-based PS3 application?  Emulation will only take you so far, especially when multitasking is important.

Cell wasn't designed to be very scalable, either.  It won't come in a variety of clock speeds like x86.

Besides, multimedia these days more or less means fancy 3D graphics, not things like design, toolkits, scanning, printing, and personal creativity, like, point-and-click apps that let you write your own software.  Even word processors are still in the stone age as far as I'm concerned.

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Tell me again that this wouldn't be an excellent solution for an Amiga based system.

What bothers me is that PPC is being persued so agressively.  Anything else is just not an option.  Make them in the millions and they're cheap, but so far the Amiga community hasn't had the luxury of competive hardware.

We'll also need the software first.  So far, OS4 and AA don't come close to the tools made by other companies, and they aren't bundled together, either.

I find it amazing that almost anything designed for a 386 will work fine on a P4 and apps designed for many different generations of hardware will multitask properly.  I suppose people in the console and hand-held market don't really care about that level of compatibility, though, if they can sell you a new version every year or a (ugh) subscription service.  Linux works because, at least, everything can be recompiled again by the user from scratch.  Commercial software has different issues.

If OS4 had been based on a proven OS and Hyperion focused on multimedia tools and Amiga Inc. had delivered their promise of this super-fast, killer virtual machine, I'd be more enthusiastic.  We need more software demos, not arguments over whether Cell is a good CPU or not.