Quick Gary Hare IRC report, no more 3rd party AmigaOS after OS4.0.

[Jose]

@Ben

"To the extent Garry even said this (which I doubt), the fact remains that future revisions of Amiga OS 4 are a certainty provided there are sufficient sales of Amiga OS 4.0 for Hyperion to cover its development costs"


So you're continue to develop it till AmigaOS4.999999(9) ?

Few would be as satisfied as me if AmigaOS4 succeded on PPC but AInc. is killing it. What do they mean with taking development inhouse ?
And this without talking about when he mentioned "filter developers". Same as Genesi, they're just using us but at least they should have the moral of giving something back.

[bhoggett]

mdma wrote:

It's like the twilight zone!

More like a stasis chamber. Frightening, really.

[Jose]

@Ben

You should drop the name and continue it with a different name if that's possible.
It's the only solution I see.

[dammy]

More like a stasis chamber. Frightening, really.

What is the old Who classic line, "New Boss, same as the old Boss"?

Dammy
Didn't bother to download OS4 video

Jose wrote:
@Ben

You should drop the name and continue it with a different name if that's possible.
It's the only solution I see.

Oh I can see the flame wars between the Red and Blue trolls if that ever happened!!

[MskoDestny]

My interpretion of the comments made in the IRC chat is that Gary Hare's primary interest in Amiga OS is for some Internet enabled set top box or something of that sort.  Clearly, Amiga on the desktop is not a priority.  However, it would seem they have an interest in supporting the Amiga desktop as a platform as long as it doesn't cost them much.  Since modern set top boxes have a lot of the same OS needs as a desktop this isn't unreasonable (of course my set top box speculation could be entirely wrong).  This does mean that there will probably be very few advancements that benefit the desktop unless they benefit the set top box (or whatever market Mr. Hare has in mind) or they come from Hyperion.

Hyperion's role in the future of Amiga OS is not entirely clear.  The details of their agreement with Amiga Inc. have neve been made public.  Comments made in this thread and in the IRC chat seem to suggest that they have some legal ability to enhance OS 4 beyond the initial release.

[Karlos]

MskoDestny wrote:

Comments made in this thread and in the IRC chat seem to suggest that they have some legal ability to enhance OS 4 beyond the initial release.

I hope so. Frankly, I don't trust Amiga Inc's ability to pour pee out of a boot with clear instructions on the heel.

[bhoggett]

dammy wrote:
What is the old Who classic line, "New Boss, same as the old Boss"?

I think pretty much everyone with any sense knew that back then, but it's not just about the new/old Amiga Inc. Everything about the Amiga scene - including AROS - seems frozen in time. Nothing has changed, nothing's moved on or evolved at all. You could cut and paste any old thread from the past four years into a thread on the same subject today and it would still make perfect sense. It would be virtually impossible to tell the comments were years apart.

I came back to see what was new on the scene after being away for so long, and the conclusion is "nothing". It's so sad.

[Tigger]

mdma wrote:
A bloke I worked with in London in 1999/2000 said he worked with a bloke back home in Scotland called "Fleecy Moss", and this Fleecy was a masterful genius at coding.

Whether it's the same fella I dunno.

Fleecy is not a programmer, in fact he's really not that technically competant as anyone who's had a long conversation about real technology with him will tell you.  In fact anyone who attended Amiga Inc kickoff developer meeting at the Gateway show will tell you that Fleecy didn't have a good grasp of what they were trying to do and how the companies they were trying to emulate really did business.
     -Tig  

[redrumloa]

Karlos wrote:
I hope so. Frankly, I don't trust Amiga Inc's ability to pour pee out of a boot with clear instructions on the heel.

 :roflmao:  :laugh:

[dammy]

by bhoggett on 2005/3/21 11:58:50

Everything about the Amiga scene - including AROS - seems frozen in time.

As far as AROS is concerned, I hope by the end of this year, you will retract that statement. :-)

Dammy
TeamAROS

[Kronos]

As far as AROS is concerned, I hope by the end of this year, you will retract that statement. :-)

Which offcourse could also have been c&ped out of a 2004 or 2003 thread......

[Jose]

AmigaOS4 has also advanced prett much.. Not AIncs. merit though..

Donny,

I don't doubt that it's Amiga Inc's name and they can do whatever makes them money.  I really wish they would get off their ass and come up with something that WOULD make money  but for {bleep}'s sake... If they'd just stop dicking the community around (to include giving vague non-committal answers -- admitting the fact that they have no interest in the desktop platform) "moving out of 1985" would be a hell of a lot easier for most folks.  

Hell, if we KNEW (for the fact that it is) that all this future PPC crap was just crap, we could all ignore it and get back to supporting the real Amiga computer rather than tearing each other apart from one scam company to the next.

It's been 10 years of this crap, 5 years with the exact same people trying to squeeze blood out our little turnips (so to speak) and I'm basically just at a point where I wanna grab one of them shake hell out of em, and say "for once, in your {bleep}ing life, tell the truth!"  Reading the transcript from Garry was worse than trying to figure out how exactly  Dubya and his family are profiting from the war in the middle east (and they are).

Wayne

[redrumloa]

@Wayne

I agreed with you 100% up until this point.

Reading the transcript from Garry was worse than trying to figure out how exactly Dubya and his family are profiting from the war in the middle east (and they are).

DOH!  :smack:

[cecilia]