potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP

[justthatgood]

@Tripitaka

Ahhh, I wish when I had the money, I was ambition enough to do that to my XBox.  At the time I bought into the even empire, and got me a XBox Live account, and I just didn't want to do anything to my hardware that was going to keep me from using it.  

I guess now since there aren't going to be any really new Live hits coming out for the XBox since the XBox 360 is now the star, I think I might even attempt at doing that.  I've never really been a fan of the Gamecube though. It just really didn't click with me, and the weird media concerned me even more.  Add that with the stigma of being a "kiddie" system. Yes there are too many kiddie type games on that system.  I don't think the N64 even had that degree of pastelness.

[Hammer]

lou_dias wrote:

Hammer wrote:
@lou_dias

Theoretical vs Theoretical

Refer to
http://www.nintendo.com.au/gamecube/system/index.php
10.5 GFLOPS.

http://nvidia.com/page/console.html
80 GLOPS from NV2A

In terms being a calculator; NVIDIA’s NV2A kills the whole Nintendo Game Cube. GC can’t match a massively parallelled SIMD GPU.

Somehow I don't think the XBOX is the Cray supercomputer that this page you linked makes it seem to be.

Which Cray computer?

  Also the 10.5 Gflops you quoted is:
Floating-point Arithmetic Capability 10.5 GFLOPS (Peak) for the GC's processor not GPU.  What's the the Celeron in the XBox's FPU Arithmetic Capability?  Let's compare apples to apples here.

10.5 GFLOPS (Peak) refers to MPU(CPU), Geometry Engine, HW Lighting.

[Hammer]

Isn't "hitting the metal" what API's do? Why would you want re-invent the wheel. "Hitting the metal" is what made A500 games incompatible with later Amiga machines. Why go back down that road?(SNIP)

Would you like reduce AOS4 like DE?

Also, the GC has no BIOS.

GC would have it's own boot strap code.  

So that is one less layer of R&D that is needed. Everything is in the Dev kit and loaded from the game disc. The GC's drive has a really low average seek time and that's why alot of software loads quickly on the system versus the others. When loading alot of smaller files, the GC will outperform a PS2 or XBOX in loading times.

The amount of data in XBOX is greater than GC i.e. it has enough performance to run Doom3** and FarCry**.  

**Cut down from PC ports.

[Louis Dias]

wow - talk about a blast from the past!

Own your Xbox and enjoy it just as I own my original and modded Gamecubes and enjoy them.

[Tripitaka]

@justthatgood

Go for it! XBMC is v.cool. mmm..Kiddie console? I never did like that label, Eternal Darkness, Rogue leader and Metroid sold it for me. :roll:
I've still got an N64 too (with a V64 Dr  ;-) ).

[Hammer]

lou_dias wrote:

I already know C and C++.  Guess what - C/C++ sucks ass.  

C/C++ has it's place i.e. especially in performance sensitive code (without going to assembler programming).

If you want C/C++ performance with near VB.NET, why not try Delphi?

[Louis Dias]

Yes, I know you've all been waiting for it.
A post in this thread.

According to: www.gc-linux.org
with the addition of a drivechip ( http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/273447 ) that costs $20-$30, you can create ISO's that will boot and run your code.

Once again re-iterating how CHEAP and EASY it is to develop for the Gamecube.

The linux site even has a video of linux booting from a disc in the cube's drive straight from the Cube's original bios screen.

[koaftder]

lou_dias wrote:
Yes, I know you've all been waiting for it.
A post in this thread.

According to: www.gc-linux.org
with the addition of a drivechip ( http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/273447 ) that costs $20-$30, you can create ISO's that will boot and run your code.

Once again re-iterating how CHEAP and EASY it is to develop for the Gamecube.

Seeing as you will need a pc to develop for the GC, wouldnt it be cheaper and easier to develop software that runs on pc's?

You get that GC hacked into you car yet?

[Louis Dias]

koaftder wrote:

lou_dias wrote:
Yes, I know you've all been waiting for it.
A post in this thread.

According to: www.gc-linux.org
with the addition of a drivechip ( http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/273447 ) that costs $20-$30, you can create ISO's that will boot and run your code.

Once again re-iterating how CHEAP and EASY it is to develop for the Gamecube.

Seeing as you will need a pc to develop for the GC, wouldnt it be cheaper and easier to develop software that runs on pc's?

You get that GC hacked into you car yet?

Here's a review of the chip: http://www.consolejunky.com/xenogc-review/

I live in Mass, I bought the car from Alabama.  There I had leather seats and added a factory sub-woofer option.  From there I had it shipped to Illinois where it's waiting for a racing brake and suspension kit to be built as well as a 6 speed install.  Hope to have it here for the end of March where I will have a remote starter (hope they will install on sticks) and alarm put it.  Then I will have the motor ripped out and purchase a bigger block rebuilt for high performace.  My first spectator drag race is Memorial Day weekend so I need the car driveable by then.

As for the GC install, that's after JLF65 has done his AROS port and suitable AROS applications exist.  However, I can and probably will install a GC in my car when I redesign the dash with the stereo I linked to in a prior post whether or not a suitable OS exists...I mean, after all, it is still a Gamecube.  Thanks for asking.

Ps,
I just picked up Fight Night Round 2.  Phenominal in progressive scan.  Graphics are absolutely amazing.  It was $24.99 new at E.B. Games.  It's almost a year old.  Great game!

Oh and gcc does run on the gamecube in linux so you don't need a PC really except to burn the iso...but that could be a Mac or Linux box as well.

[koaftder]

lou_dias wrote:

I live in Mass, I bought the car from Alabama.  There I had leather seats and added a factory sub-woofer option.  From there I had it shipped to Illinois where it's waiting for a racing brake and suspension kit to be built as well as a 6 speed install.  Hope to have it here for the end of March where I will have a remote starter (hope they will install on sticks) and alarm put it.  Then I will have the motor ripped out and purchase a bigger block rebuilt for high performace.  My first spectator drag race is Memorial Day weekend so I need the car driveable by then.

As for the GC install, that's after JLF65 has done his AROS port and suitable AROS applications exist.  However, I can and probably will install a GC in my car when I redesign the dash with the stereo I linked to in a prior post whether or not a suitable OS exists...I mean, after all, it is still a Gamecube.  Thanks for asking.

Dang, thats a lot of transport fees you must be paying there. What kind of car is it? What are the specs on the engine your having put in?

[Louis Dias]

Well, it's a Fiero GT and I got it transported for $500 and I think it'll be another $580 to get it from Illinois to here.  Owning a Fiero puts you into a huge online community.  The transporting company owner is another Fiero enthusiast and was one of the first to put a 4.9L Caddillac V8 in a Fiero and race it.

I'm sticking with the 60 degree V6.  Stock is a 2.8L OHV motor with hydrolic cam, I'm boring (.080" over) a roller-cammed 3.4 to 3.5L.  It will make more horsepower that the 4.9L V8 when I'm done.  My car is here: www.v8archie.com
He is creating a 6 speed kit using the tranny from the Pontiac G6.  Same bellhousing as my motor.  Does Chevy 350/LT1/LS1 installs into Fieros.  Now sells some sweet body kits...suicide doors...chop top kits....

My motor will use:
Magnum 1.52 roller rockers
aftermarket roller cam (don't know spec but will be slightly better than the cam in the 2004 3.5L Malibu)
custom size pushrods (needed for roller lifter instead of hydrolic)
pistons from a 3.4 twin dual overhead cam motor (.080" over for the extra .1L) for a compression ratio bump from 8.9 to 9.8
stainless steel polished SI valves
ported and polished heads
#17 injectors (might need 19#)
shortened and ported stock intake with bored +5mm throttle body
custom headers & crossover being developed from www.trueleo.com
2.5" exhaust with bullet style mufflers
K&N on a CRX cold air intake tube (yes, it fits)

I'm expecting ~200 rear wheel horse or about 230-240 gross.
For comparison, the Caddy 4.9L V8 dynos at ~ 157-166 rear wheel horse.  It's rated at 200 at the flywheel when new.  My last 3.4 netted 150 rwhp www.geocities.com/lou_dias/Fiero.html with 100k miles on the block.

[coldfish]

All the money you saved from -not- buying an A1 you can put towards gas!

 :-P

Dang!

[Louis Dias]

coldfish wrote:
All the money you saved from -not- buying an A1 you can put towards gas!

 :-P

Dang!

That's why I'm switching from a 5 speed to a 6 speed!  Well, that and the G6 6 speed can handle over 300 hp where as the stock 5 speed wasn't made to handle of 200 consistently.  I do alot of highway driving...

I've been driving Fiero GT's exclusively since 1995.  I'm on my 4th now.  Sold the first for the second then totalled that one and the last one.  You can take the biggest die-hard Amigan and when it comes to Fieros, I'd dwarf his obsession.  The car simply feels like it was made just for me.  I just like to improve upon what's already there...sorta like adding an accelerator and more RAM and a bigger HDD.

[Louis Dias]

Ok, everybody power up their Gamecube.

Happy Anniversary!

[koaftder]

lou_dias wrote:
Ok, everybody power up their Gamecube.

Happy Anniversary!

 :banana:  :banana:  :banana:  :banana:  :banana:  :banana:  :pint:  :pint:  :pint:

Now this is some history here, the amiga thread that lasted an entire year and it didnt have anything to do with t-shirts, nor was usenet involved.

Just immagine, Nintendo being the savior of amiga.

[Louis Dias]

LOL