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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #554 from previous page: December 24, 2005, 08:14:09 AM »
I'd like to chime in with this tidbit...

If you're going to base a "new Amiga" around a GameCube, why not be even smarter and base it around an XBox? I mean, seriously, a GC is a kid's toy. An XBox is actually expandable (everyone I know here already has a 100GB HD, hardmods, new Xconsole, etc), it's actually faster, actually supports most PC perepherials, is actually already running 50 times the stuff the GC is -- including WinUAE (gosh you mean an Amiga already runs very well on the XBox?), Linux, etc. -- and is not some stupid little cube that looks like a girl's makeup container.

Them's my two cents.

CG Amiga, that's one the most amusing thing's I've heard since people were saying that paying $1650.00 for non-backwards compatible machine worth $650.00 was the next best thing for an Amiga...
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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #555 on: December 24, 2005, 08:56:34 AM »
Amiga on Intel has already been discussed by many.  Especially Eyetech.  I already have WinUAE.  I don't use it because I alredy run Windows and have every app I need there.  What I want to do is take my Amiga-GC "disc" to any GC owner's house with a BBA and also insert my SD card into any GC and check my email and do what I got to do.  That's not possible on Windows unless I buy a Pocket PC device.  Amiga OS needs to be what Palm OS didn't live up to.

Also, a full GC setup can be had for about $180.  Also, since so many people own GC's, all you'd have to do is carry your boot disc and SD Gecko w/SD card to anyone's house (and possibly a broad band adapter) and you've got yourself quite a reliable portable system.

SD memory cards are the new floppy/CDR's.  Just imagine Windows "Terminal" PC's that launched your personal system settings off of an SD card you inserted into the machine.  That's how standardized Windows is getting.  Amiga needs to get there first.  Instead of a "user login", a user inserts there SD card and all their settings come up and with 2GB of storage, all there relevant data-files are there as well.
 

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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #556 on: December 24, 2005, 10:09:32 AM »
SD? Bah, SmartMedia is the only worthy successor of the floppy disc.

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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #557 on: December 24, 2005, 12:55:31 PM »
   have you guys run aros lately. if not you might want to. download the iso burn it and try it out. nothing i have seen anywhere else has had this much promise.
   lou-dias i do agree that linux has some problems. the main problem it has is what it was meant to be- a unix clone. unix was never meant to be consumer os. it was designed what 35 years ago for mainframes etc.
   thats were amigaos stepped in and should have made a stand. because it was a unixlike os designed from the start to be a consumer os. simple, efficient, modern, and especially designed for multimedia.
   that is also why aros is so important. aros is now where linux was 10 years ago. mainstream computer users have bypassed linux because it is to complex to install, run, and maintain. and the simplicity of those things and efficiency are amigaos' and aros' greatest streangths.
   BTW aros should be able to be ported to GC with a little effort.
   also think about something. if os4 were to be released today, like right now, who would buy it? amiga diehards maybe with the money to do so. most computer users wont. aros is free! and it doenst even need to be intalled to try out, just burn a livecd. if aros 1.0 were to be released right now most amigans would at least give it a try andf i personally know quite a few non amiga fans that would.
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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #558 on: December 24, 2005, 06:46:49 PM »
AROS does show promise.
It just needs commercial support in the form of apps.
OS4 seems to have some support in that department.  Real developers are developing OS4 apps.

If AROS is to exist on both PPC and x86 platform, it is going to need an intermediate common programming language like Window's .NET common runtime library.  I'd hate to see a divided platform.
 

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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #559 on: January 09, 2006, 09:45:55 PM »
http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=5849

review of new Viper Xtreme GC, SDK for USB bi-directional programming

usb adapter plugs into the broadband adapter port to replace the BBA...can't get something for nothing I guess...

too bad you couldn't use Serial Port 1 (for Rev A 'Cubes) then you could have your cake and eat it too.
 

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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #560 on: January 11, 2006, 05:45:43 PM »
I've got 2 GC's...........
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: etc...etc..

...I just had to do that.
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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #561 on: January 11, 2006, 07:11:10 PM »
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I've got 2 GC's...........
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: etc...etc..

...I just had to do that.


omg, this thread is still alive. 20 days till 1 year aniversary. This needs to make it to wikipedia. This is history here. The concept of an amiga/nintendo relationship. A makeup kit computer, complete with rainbow logos on the case and AOS4 inside. The thread that just wouldnt die.

This is history that our great grandchildren will be reading about in their computer history classes when they hit 5th grade.
 

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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #562 on: January 12, 2006, 12:46:02 PM »
I'm just too excited for w..
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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #563 on: January 12, 2006, 01:21:17 PM »
OMG, Gamecubes are evil though!!!!  I mean yeah I know I have a XBox and that's considered to be the devil in the flesh, but at least it has some really nifty killer games.  What can I really play on Gamecube that is worth playing? Resident Evils I guess.  

I really don't feel like playing games like Piki-Coco Fluffy Chop Chop Feel Good Day, or Animal Sing Along Dualing Guitars.

 :roll: No more sacchrin, pastel, enka saturated games.  It's all about the blowing stuff up, and tearing stuff up.
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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #564 on: January 12, 2006, 02:16:28 PM »
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OMG, Gamecubes are evil though!!!!  I mean yeah I know I have a XBox and that's considered to be the devil in the flesh, but at least it has some really nifty killer games.  What can I really play on Gamecube that is worth playing? Resident Evils I guess.  

I really don't feel like playing games like Piki-Coco Fluffy Chop Chop Feel Good Day, or Animal Sing Along Dualing Guitars.

 :roll: No more sacchrin, pastel, enka saturated games.  It's all about the blowing stuff up, and tearing stuff up.


Hey hey hey...Call of Duty II: The Big Red One is available for the gaycube....err, Gamecube.

I told my wife that's the only way she'll get me to game on it as I prefer the PC. :-)
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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #565 on: January 12, 2006, 02:24:35 PM »
This post still alive? Oh my god!
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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #566 on: January 12, 2006, 10:49:13 PM »
Yes, it's still alive because unlike the Amiga market, new hardware to expand the capabilities of the Gamecube is still being developed.  Same goes for software.

Low level AROS drivers are being ported and soon native PPC AROS will run on the Gamecube.

Revolution will be able to run AROS through it's GC compatibility via SDLoader using Action Replay (http://www.consolejunky.com/sdload-tutorial/) and if Nintendo's Wi-Fi emulates the BBA, the PSO method of executing homebrew code will also work.

Dave Haynie's remarks about not spending alot of money to run a hobby echo alot of what I've been saying about just using a simple cheap GC.

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So it's $800-$1600 invested before you boot to Workbench. Once there, you don't have applications yet. So it's just a toy.


So return Amiga to it's roots as a console with a "cool" desktop.  Bring back the games.

I was playing the 'Cube version of SNE9X 1.43.  It's amazing when you compare it to the Windows version.  It's just perfect.  And there are Sega emulators as well...

When I launch Linux I get to a linux login in 5 seconds...and that's after it detects the hard ware and connects to a filesystem running on my PC over ethernet.  So it's not exactly a stripped down bare-bones kernal.  It also can be patched over the internet.

Homebrew shareware version of Doom for the 'Cube is 6.2MB and is running from my SD card in about 7-8 seconds...so much for SD memory being "slow"...(I am using a 1GB card, by the way).

Before the trolling resumes, here are my goals:

I am going to build a custom dashboard for my car with a stereo like this Kenwood Exelon DDX7017.
I am going to mount my spare modded 'Cube in the car with the audio and video channelled to that stereo.  I will use a wireless ethernet bridge to give the GC wireless internet access when I am near wi-fi hot zones.  I need an OS such as AROS that will let me run a simple email application to keep up with my email.  I will use a miniature keyboard to type.  Mouse emulation will be provided by the GC's analog stick.  All information will be stored on an SD card, including the OS.  I can use Action Replay and my SD Gecko to boot my OS on any "un-modded" GC so I can take my files(and messages) indoors just by pulling out a card and bring them up on anybody's GC or just stick the SD card into a PC...  It's all doable and the GC would still be useable for GC and homebrew games in the car.

That's a neat and cool thing that you don't need a full blown PC for and adds a certain "cool" factor like Amiga "used to have".  I know people will say why not just use a laptop.  Well, a laptop is easily stolen if left in a car.  It can be expensive.  It can break easily.  And laptops don't have that "cool" factor anymore.  Also, all I'd have to carry around is an SD memory card.  A 3" Action Replay disc and memory card adapter if I want to run it on someone else's GC.

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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #567 on: January 12, 2006, 11:04:24 PM »
@lou_dias

I like it when you say those  :crazy:  things, show us the working version and I'll be truly impressed. :-D

I'm sold on modding my cube anyway as I've nearly finished my XBox (200GB HDD,executer chip ;-), clear blue case, nice round blue ATA 133 cable all done, I've got the kit for 2 rear USB ports and clear fan with blue cathode. They come next. Another cathode and matching casing for the controllers after that and I'll be done).  :-D
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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #568 on: January 12, 2006, 11:48:26 PM »
The toughest part of the above project is actually designing the dash.  Everything else is feasable once JLF65 finishes the AROS port.

I am looking into importing Xbox controller->USB adapter cables in quantity from the same place I ordered my 50 SD Geckos.  I've sold about 25 to various GC homebrew developers including the one to the person porting AROS to GC.

The company has lots of good stuff for the console modding community...it's starting to become a nice little side business as a close friend is investing with me.  So interestingly, something positive has become of this thread for me.
 

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Re: Time to celebrate!
« Reply #569 on: January 12, 2006, 11:53:38 PM »
@Tripitaka

Ahhh, I wish when I had the money, I was ambition enough to do that to my XBox.  At the time I bought into the even empire, and got me a XBox Live account, and I just didn't want to do anything to my hardware that was going to keep me from using it.  

I guess now since there aren't going to be any really new Live hits coming out for the XBox since the XBox 360 is now the star, I think I might even attempt at doing that.  I've never really been a fan of the Gamecube though. It just really didn't click with me, and the weird media concerned me even more.  Add that with the stigma of being a "kiddie" system. Yes there are too many kiddie type games on that system.  I don't think the N64 even had that degree of pastelness.
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