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Re: AmigaOne, Articia S, and Mac, oh Why?
« Reply #14 from previous page: February 25, 2003, 10:17:11 AM »
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could have fooled me by his posts...maybe I must be getting some mystical posts that you're not getting because I've certainly seen him up thier ### ;)

Consider yourself a mystic, then.
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Re: AmigaOne, Articia S, and Mac, oh Why?
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2003, 10:30:30 AM »
@ tonyw

Thanks for the reply, it was clear and I think most people aren't aware of that, unless it has been brought up months ago (and it probably was).

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So I guess that A500, 600, 1000, 2000, CDTV, CD32, are pure garbage then? Thanks for posting here.
 

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Re: AmigaOne, Articia S, and Mac, oh Why?
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2003, 10:43:57 AM »
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Consider yourself a mystic, then.


well since more then one have seem to misunderstood me.   I should clarify myself a little better..  fact of the matter is bb has made it very clear that he's interested in his competitors products if he wasn't he wouldn't mention them in almost every thread he posts in(intentionally exagerated for dramatic effect lol)... he's interested which is very common in business what is not common is spending more time insulting and talking about your competitors or insinuating new products then working on your own products.
(hell noone's yet mentions that the specs were informed so far about the new peggyII board could very easily by spec anyways be the Artica P. Big deal if it is. I personally would find it funny considering the big anti mai thread here.)
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Re: AmigaOne, Articia S, and Mac, oh Why?
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2003, 10:50:28 AM »
Even I have to admit, Buck's comment was total
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Re: AmigaOne, Articia S, and Mac, oh Why?
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2003, 08:45:58 PM »
Boy, am I thick skulled. That means tha the Agnus chip in an Amiga (designed by the genius from Hi Torro), IS an Articia S for Amigas. And, due to being custom made for Amiga, doesn't require patches/drivers to the tune of 65 megs (directx 8.1) of code to run.

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Amiga! Patches, we don't need no stinkin' patches!  (well, small ones, maybe).
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So I guess that A500, 600, 1000, 2000, CDTV, CD32, are pure garbage then? Thanks for posting here.
 

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Re: AmigaOne, Articia S, and Mac, oh Why?
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2003, 10:35:23 PM »

Atheist questions where either very naiv
or rather stupid, pick one.


On my opinion, BB answer was OK.
You can't blame them for choosing the Articia.

They wanted to build a PPC based computer - the Pegasos.

For the CPU they decided to offer an CPU slot.
- Which was a decision we all appreciated very much.

For the first CPU module the picked the IBM 750 cxe.
- Again a very reasonable decision.
  Running Amiga/MorphOS the G3 (750)
  has a similar performance as the G4
  but uses less Power (=no fan) and is much cheaper.

For the northbridge they chosed the use the Articia.
- Now, we know that this was maybe a bad decision,
   but at the time they decided to use it,
   it was a very reasonable decision.
  The Artecia offered many features at a reasonable price.


Everybody should know that exchanging
the northbridge now is not so easy.

The have invested real money in
 - designing the boards
 - producing boards
 - and writing code /driver for the Articia

I think that everybody understands that
the northbidge is a vital part of the mainboard
which can't just be replaced.

By using another nothbridge most of their work
and money to build the Pegasos is wasted.

They will have a build a complete new board.


How would you feel if you invested big time
and money in building a Computer system ;
and then, just before you can start selling them,
you see that they are broken - and its not even your fault.

And now people will ask you question like
 - look at MAC they do it better than you -
 Why don't you throw away your design and
 start again from scratch ?

Well, this would really piss me off too.


just my 2cents

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Re: AmigaOne, Articia S, and Mac, oh Why?
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2003, 11:25:07 PM »
I think maybe naive, but NOT stupid.

After all, with the crap that's posted in the Amiga news these days, who can blame someone for not being totally up to scratch?
 

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Re: AmigaOne, Articia S, and Mac, oh Why?
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2003, 10:09:11 AM »
1) Apple doesn't use "IBM chips" or whatever the hell you're trying to say. Apple designs their own north bridge chips. It's called UniNorth.

2) MAC = media access control, not Macintosh

3) If you want a Mac, buy a Mac. You're not going to convince Apple (or anybody with a brain) you can buy their chips, design a whole new board, and sell it for less. If you want to use their nirth bridge chips you may as well puchase Macs in bulk and resell them as MorphOS machines. The main difference being you'll actually be able to run MOL legally.
 

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Re: AmigaOne, Articia S, and Mac, oh Why?
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2003, 11:01:25 AM »

Puhh.

Finally someone put an end to these lies about macs using IBM controller chips (I have a mac myself so i know   :-) ).
In fact Apple once tried to licence out it´s technology, but it didn´t work out as they expected, so they ended the licence program.

The IBM "alternative" controller that everyone talks about does not have AGP support and it´s not aimed at the same marked (low cost mobos) as the Articia S. Neither have the Marvell controller which there has been some rumours of being used by an Amiga competitor for their next computer model.

 

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Re: AmigaOne, Articia S, and Mac, oh Why?
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2003, 11:58:18 AM »
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1) Apple doesn't use "IBM chips" or whatever the hell you're trying to say. Apple designs their own north bridge chips. It's called UniNorth.


Thanks for clearing that up.
 

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Re: AmigaOne, Articia S, and Mac, oh Why?
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2003, 03:52:39 PM »
@KennyR

If you (and others) had bothered to do some research before you sent your comments he probably wouldn´t have to clear it up.


 

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Re: AmigaOne, Articia S, and Mac, oh Why?
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2003, 04:16:04 PM »
bbrv dick  :-P  
good one
 

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Re: AmigaOne, Articia S, and Mac, oh Why?
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2003, 05:29:30 PM »
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If you (and others) had bothered to do some research before you sent your comments he probably wouldn´t have to clear it up.


Yeah people!!  What do people think Forums are for? Huh?  To get help or get answers to questions?  

Nope, they're only for bbrv to make announcements in.

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