Is Miami now open source ?

See, what it is is I am in the process of resurrecting my Amiga and will have a bash at the internet. Thing is, the last time I had a go at the internet with my Amigas the TCP/IP program I used for access wouldn't work with my Freeserve account, the thing just kept crashing - it's the one that came with Netconnect 3. So, I went back to using Miami, a registered copy, but, whenever I entered the registration key into Miami, the damn thing also crashed. Without the key, in demo mode, it works fine but, as you will all know, the demo mode only lasts for half an hour before disconnecting and this, after a while, becomes a little annoying. Anyway, I had a look at the Aminet site to see if Miami was still posted up there and had a look at the readme, without actually downloading the Miami program. As there was nothing in the readme to indicate that the version on Aminet was/is/isn't/was not a demo I was just wondering. Anyway, as the replies indicate, obviously Miami isn't open source so the next question is - Is there an open source TCP/IP program hanging around somewhere that I could use in preference to my Miami program ?


All the best


Sam

[4pLaY]

Only open source one is AmiTCP! as soon as Roadshow is out miami will be fastly ditched and be forgotten but untill those days AmiTCP is the only way.

[Paul_Gadd]

If you want to buy MiamiDX but the author does not want your money then bollox to him and download a keyfile.

[carls]

@4play

Is AmiTCP open source?
Where can I find out more about this?

[Golem!dk]

The source for AmiTCP 3.0b2 has been available for ages.

ftp://ftp.geekgadgets.org/pub/geekgadgets/amiga/m68k/alpha/amitcp/

[lempkee]

paul_gadd: i dont know about you but i have developed for amiga since 1988. and i have bought every single thing i loved and used, i still do...and i dont waste money on pc and such like many others do....patriotism on the amiga is good

i would hope alot more people follow up on that and buy/reg whatever they use, but the state of amiga is more or less like any small market is, maybe we can fix that?

[Minuous]

removed for piracy potential

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[Paul_Gadd]

@lempkee

i would hope alot more people follow up on that and buy/reg whatever they use, but the state of amiga is more or less like any small market is, maybe we can fix that?

Many people are ready to purchase software but the authors just dont care anymore.

I remember having the same crap with the author of "Backbone", sent him emails and even sent a letter by snail mail but got no reply so i just eventually found a full version floating around the net.

Made a James Bond game with backbone, sent it to Amiga Format and it got praised but they rejected it twice because it contained copyrighted images and sounds from the films, total joke.

I agree with you about people and registering software but if the users cant register due to the authors then some will download pirate versions and personally i dont blame them.

[Marky_D_Sahd]

Contributions by H&P?  How about OS3.9? Boing Bags?
 AmigaWriter?
I agree that they have done horrific things, but not made a sizable contribution to the Amiga?  No, I can't go that far.
As for Holger, this months latest poster boy for spit on Amiga.com, didn't he get the award for greatest contribution to the Amiga a few years back at WoA?
Boy do we quickly turn on our own.

Maybe that explains why the market is so small?

[Quixote]

Marky_D_Sahd mentioned:

...As for Holger, this months latest poster boy for spit on Amiga.com, didn't he get the award for greatest contribution to the Amiga a few years back at WoA?

:-) Yep!  It was mentioned in an issue of Amiga Format magazine afterward, along with a photo.  He had been given the first AAA award, for outstanding contribution to the Amiga community.  Miami did more to get amigans online than any other product.

:-( It's just a shame that he no longer involves himself in the community.

hi

name is bj-bill.

just was woundering if you could let me have a copy of the orignal install software and workbench etc. from your amiga 4000, i have an 4000 i got from a friend but he had already thrown the manual and software away....

sny help??

bj-bill

would have been rated as abandonware 2 years ago

Abandonware is certainly something supernatural, because if the party with rights to a piece of software decides to give it out for free (after selling licenses), it is not abandoning but a re-release - a bittersweet but not very rare event. And I don't think those are synonymous. So with all due respect, Miami's author may deny he ever wrote the thing or what ever else anyone would hold against him, but an assumption that the terms of use would suddenly be void has no basis on this planet. Suit yourselves..

[ronybeck]

Another thought.  Holger was accused constantly of putting spy ware into Miami that would tell him who had pirated.  No proof was ever supplied by I recall Digital Corruption posted several supposed "fixes" for this supposed "spyware".  If this was true then I can't imagine he would incriminate himself by open sourcing it.  Unless he wanted to edit out that code.

It was kind of funny though.  When ever the Miami Mailing lists went quiet all you had to do was send an email to it accusing Holger of spyware making and the list went nutz!!! LOL :-D

While every one is playing the blame game, am I allowed to blame Commodore at this late stage of things for the Amiga failing?  :-D

[Paul_Gadd]

@ronybeck

The Miami backdoor was true and proved to sent out details of the user to a certain IP address but DC removed the IP address and replaced it with the localhost one (127.0.0.1).

To test it just download a version DC claimed to have a backdoor and get old pirate keyfiles and run it under UAE and tell windows/mac/linux firewall to log all activity and you will be see it connect to somewhere when Miami goes online (untick use bsd).